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BetterRed
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posted 07 August 2007 08:29 PM      Profile for BetterRed     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
As British Leave, Basra Deteriorates
Violence Rises in Shiite City Once Called a Success Story

By Karen DeYoung and Thomas E. Ricks
Washington Post Staff Writers
Tuesday, August 7, 2007; A01


As British forces pull back from Basra in southern Iraq, Shiite militias there have escalated a violent battle against each other for political supremacy and control over oil resources, deepening concerns among some U.S. officials in Baghdad that elements of Iraq's Shiite-dominated national government will turn on one another once U.S. troops begin to draw down.

Three major Shiite political groups are locked in a bloody conflict that has left the city in the hands of militias and criminal gangs, whose control extends to municipal offices and neighborhood streets. The city is plagued by "the systematic misuse of official institutions, political assassinations, tribal vendettas, neighborhood vigilantism and enforcement of social mores, together with the rise of criminal mafias that increasingly intermingle with political actors," a recent report by the International Crisis Group said.



As British leave, Basra deteriorates

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Cueball
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posted 07 August 2007 08:38 PM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I see they have succeeded in bringing Washington style democratic values to the people of Basra finally. A big success.

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The city is plagued by "the systematic misuse of official institutions, political assassinations, tribal vendettas, neighborhood vigilantism and enforcement of social mores, together with the rise of criminal mafias that increasingly intermingle with political actors," a recent report by the International Crisis Group said.

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The mission, he said, was simply to "get the place and the people to a state where Iraqis could run this part of the country, if they chose to."


Is that a typo? Should it not say Iranians?

[ 07 August 2007: Message edited by: Cueball ]


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Fidel
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posted 07 August 2007 08:44 PM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well now the Iraqi situation has deteriorated to levels not seen since CIA-funded fundamentalist factions turned rockets and rifles on one another in 1992 Afghanistan, it must be time to pull the pin in Iraq and leave them to their own devices. May the most ruthless warring faction win this Darwinian battle to the last drop of someone's oil.
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John K
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posted 09 August 2007 09:15 AM      Profile for John K        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Interesting article in the Guardian on the same topic:
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Eventually, the US will have to negotiate its way out

Expectations of an early withdrawal from Iraq are premature. Only broader resistance is likely to break the American grip

Seumas Milne
Thursday August 9, 2007

....What is clear is that the US has already suffered a strategic defeat in Iraq. A flagrant act of aggression intended to be a demonstration of untrammelled US imperial power to impose its will on the heart of the oil-producing Arab and Muslim world has instead demonstrated a fatal vulnerability to "asymmetric warfare". It's also true that, as a senior US intelligence officer told the Washington Post this week, "the British have basically been defeated in the south". Far from keeping rival militia from each other's throats, over 80% of violent attacks in the area are directed against British troops.



Rest of the article

Don't think Seumas is going to be put on Dick Cheney's Christmas card list.


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