Winter climate is a comfortable 17-23 degrees celcius and summer temperatures can get up to 45 degrees celcius in temperate places like NEW SOUTH WALES, the state which holds world famous city of Sydney, whom held the 2000 Olypic Games and was labelled the best Olympics ever by the head of the Olympic Games.

In sydney, you'll see the harbour bridge and opera house to the centrepoint tower to The Royal National Park wiht a huge array of amazing beaches.

Combined with a government eager to help out other countries in need, fulfill Australian peoples needs and the needs of the pituresque landscape.

Be seduced by the Aussie accent which has its own language called strine, which most aussies talk, Strine is slang which is normal daily language for aussies and includes well known aussie things like ''G'day''.

Wildlife is all around Australia no matter where you are you'll see everything form kangaroos to frilled neck lizards, from koalas to emus, from platypus'to possums and cockatoos to red belly black snakes, great white sharks to the amazing fish in the Great Barrier Reef. The whitest sand between your toes and amazing surf in front of you surrounded by tanned aussies enjoying the best life, in ""Australia, The Best Country In The World".

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Originally posted by ufo1300:
Be seduced by the Aussie accent which has its own language called strine, which most aussies talk, Strine is slang which is normal daily language for aussies and includes well known aussie things like ''G'day''.

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Originally posted by Melsky:

Australia is the best country, but only because of floater pies.

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I'm not going down this particular path.

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Australia is the best country, but only because of floater pies.

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And we love to scare the Brits with all our killer animals.

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Originally posted by The Wizard Of Socialism:
Australia is a good brand with good hype, I'll grant you that. But if you scrape the surface you'll find it's nothing but a fresh coat of marketing paint over a rusting frame of racism. I've been to Australia to visit my third-best friend whose going to med school there. ... Fuck those racist pricks. I'll never go back again.

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Gee, you are really well educated about Oz to make those judgements aren't you. Apparently we're all recist bastards AND we have third-rate medical training. No wonder my GP recommended I thrash my wife with a bullwhip under a full moon to cure her asthma.

Yes, there are many racist pricks in Australia, including our current PM, and in some ways our country was built on a culture of racism, especially towards the indigenous peoples- just like yours. However, there are many many Australians who feel very strongly about past and present injustices, and are working towards reparation and reconciliation. Obviously your third best friend doesn't move in the right circles.

Now, I haven't been to Canada, but I've watched lots of TV, so my summation of it is that it's a lot like the USA, everyone talks funny, the French speakers hate the English speakers, everyone skis to work, all the malls are underground cos it's so cold, maple syrup,
oh and you club baby seals to death. Is that about right?

I'd be more than happy to enter into a discussion on those issues -- or any issues -- in this country here on the board, but childish insults tend to make me think that it's not actually what's being sought. So we're all fucked. That's fine. Have a nice day.

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Originally posted by Suzette:
Thanks, Walker, you saved me some trouble. Kinda ironic that there's an accusation of racism being hurled in one sweeping generalisation about a nation, don't you think?

I'd be more than happy to enter into a discussion on those issues -- or any issues -- in this country here on the board, but childish insults tend to make me think that it's not actually what's being sought. So we're all fucked. That's fine. Have a nice day.

Boo hoo.

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Woo hoo! I thought I had gone in hard, but I'm glad to see I didn't.

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Originally posted by Ken Burch:
And Walker, clubbing those baby seals was SELF-DEFENSE.

They all had guns.

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...Be seduced by the Aussie accent which has its own language called strine, which most aussies talk, Strine is slang which is normal daily language for aussies and includes well known aussie things like ''G'day''....

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Originally posted by Hephaestion:
Suzette--

Will you be my long-distance girlfriend?

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'Flat out like a lizard drinking'
'[She's] banging like a dunny door on a windy day'

Of course, THIS is real strine:

"I woz ony sane lar snite we oughter seeyas."

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Originally posted by Hephaestion:
Walker--

Dunno if you've ever watched Seinfeld...

Elaine: (in faux Aussie accent) "That dingo ate my bay-beeee!!!"

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There may be more media reportage of him up north, but down here in the true heart of Oz he has barely rated a mention.

From what I can see, members of minor parties and independants are able to affect change, possibly with more freedom due to a lack of a party line to toe. Just look at Brian Harridine. But hey, I'm sure ol' Pete had his reasons. He's a sharp guy with a legal background, so I'm sure he did his research well before making the move.

One thing I have noticed is that on the rare occasion I've seen him speak since being elected is that he speaks like a politician rather than the passionate, hard-line, lefty activist he once was. It's a shame, because he is a truly inspirational speaker when in full flight, but I'm trying to reserve judgement for now. I have to say that my hopes for some dazzling parliamentary hoopla courtesy of Mr Garrett have been somewhat dashed.

*I'm not sure if I've used the right version of the word here... affect? Effect? I mean "bring about, rather than "imitate".

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Originally posted by Walker:
Contrarian, I got a million of them. Two more?

'Flat out like a lizard drinking'
'[She's] banging like a dunny door on a windy day'

Of course, THIS is real strine:

"I woz ony sane lar snite we oughter seeyas."

I'll leave those with you.

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I just hope none of my patients use language like that when I ask them, "So, why are you in hospital today, sir/ma'am?"

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Originally posted by Walker:
Contrarian, I got a million of them. Two more?

'Flat out like a lizard drinking'
'[She's] banging like a dunny door on a windy day'
"I woz ony sane lar snite we oughter seeyas."

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"I woz ony sane lar snite we oughter seeyas."

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"I wazzed in the Seine...?"

But I know a thing or two about racism. I live in Saskatchewan. This is arguably the most racist province in Canada. From the shopkeepers who refuse to touch some people's hands when returning change, to the police who harass, beat and sometimes leave some people to freeze to death in minus forty weather, to the employers who refuse to hire those same people. Racist jokes and slurs abound everywhere, even in the marble palace. I see racism every day, and it sickens me.

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Walker said: Yes, there are many racist pricks in Australia, including our current PM, and in some ways our country was built on a culture of racism, especially towards the indigenous peoples- just like yours.

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Then Suzette said: I'd be more than happy to enter into a discussion on those issues -- or any issues -- in this country here on the board, but childish insults tend to make me think that it's not actually what's being sought.

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Hardly an attempt to "whitewash".

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Originally posted by The Wizard Of Socialism:
I've been up on the cross for what I said about Australia for awhile now. Fair enough. My ego is not so fragile that it cannot suffer the slings and arrows of intemperance.

But I know a thing or two about racism. I live in Saskatchewan. This is arguably the most racist province in Canada. From the shopkeepers who refuse to touch some people's hands when returning change, to the police who harass, beat and sometimes leave some people to freeze to death in minus forty weather, to the employers who refuse to hire those same people. Racist jokes and slurs abound everywhere, even in the marble palace. I see racism every day, and it sickens me.

What I saw in Australia was even worse. Racism may be cultural in Canada, but it's institutional in Australia. And all the cute koala bears and funky accents in the world aren't enough to whitewash that...

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As I said, you make a quick trip to a place and form such a finely tuned judgement. "Oh look honey, it's just like back home- they're all racist bastards". You may as well start wearing an orange sweatsuit and sew an American flag on your lapel.

Listen, I'm not getting all defensive and dewy-eyed about dear old Aus; in fact, I'm often accused of denigrating my own country and people in Aus forums and meesage boards.

My point is Australia is such a massive and diverse country, in size, opinion, attitudes, policy and practice, that even Australians have trouble distilling and describing the essence of our peoples. That's the best thing about it. So for you to think you can whizz over and make an off the cuff judgement is the height of arrogance. In short, you're a dickhead.

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so proud of myself I can translate( mind you I have had ten years in Aussie)
Flat out - either working realy hard, or laying around realy well.
Banging- probably having sex or possibly talking lots,
Dunny - outside tiolet in a small stand alone shed, about 3ft by 4ft.
last one i can definitly do .. I was only saying last night we ought to see you(soon, or here).

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Secondly the Aussie racial disparity.

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Originally posted by Southlander:
Secondly the Aussie racial disparity.

(snip of some ?racist assumptions)

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I think the 'lizard drinking' saying assumes a lizard who lives in the desert would drink really fast.

And the 'dunny door' scenario? I had trouble with that myself, never having employed it in conversation. I just love it. I think it's a multiple use analogy - I first thought of talking too much but I googled a couple of examples that referred to sex.

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