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Hephaestion
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posted 26 July 2005 10:40 PM      Profile for Hephaestion   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Apparently it's not just me who finds this unsettling...


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German LGBT groups are expressing outrage over reports that police in three German states are keeping secret computer files on gays.

Der Spiegel reports that the names of gays who have been in any way involved in the legal system - either as suspects, victims or witesses - are being gathered on the database.

The three states are identified as Bavaria, Thuringia, and North Rhine-Westphalia. Both Bavaria and Thuringia are ruled by conservative governments. North Rhine-Westphalia is governed by a center-left coalition of Social Democrats and Greens.

By entering "omosex" German for homosexual, police can call up all data files on cases in which gays have been involved. The database also reportedly allows for subcategories to be entered - such as groups, meeting places, or types of sex such as S&M.

Gay groups have denounced the database is intrusive. A member of the federal parliament goes further. Volker Beck, who often speaks out on subjects of concern to the LGBT community says it conjures up memories of the country's Nazi past.

"[It] brings up unpleasant memories of old police practices such as the keeping of 'pink lists,'" Volker said in a letter to the interior ministers of the three states.

The "pink lists" were kept by the Nazis of all suspected gays and used to persecute them.

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DrConway
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posted 26 July 2005 11:00 PM      Profile for DrConway     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
At least the Stasi just spied on everybody.
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Yst
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posted 27 July 2005 03:33 AM      Profile for Yst     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well surely if police in Bavaria are collecting the identities of sexual minorities, they can only have the best interests of those minorities in mind, right?

Right?

Oi...


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Papal Bull
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posted 27 July 2005 03:49 AM      Profile for Papal Bull   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ein Zwei Polizei, eh?

Anyways, I'd truly be worried if the Christian Democrat or whatever they are called, assumed power. At this point, it is an evil intrusion into lives that should be stopped.


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CMOT Dibbler
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posted 27 July 2005 11:56 AM      Profile for CMOT Dibbler     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The question I would ask, is why would they create the database in first place? Gays are no more likely to commit serious crimes then anyone else, so why do they need it? I guess it could be used to titilate closeted policemen, but that's about it.

It's a shame, I thought Germany was gay friendly. I guess I was wrong


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raccunk
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posted 27 July 2005 12:54 PM      Profile for raccunk     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well this is disturbing. I have always viewed Germany as a fairly gay friendly place myself. Openly gay individuals are allowed in the military there. I can't see why they would have such a discriminatory database. Perhaps they are copying the US's registration of middle eastern men.
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