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Hephaestion
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posted 09 March 2006 03:30 PM      Profile for Hephaestion   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
The leader of the world's Anglicans has ruled out a new debate on the church's teaching that gay sex is "incompatible with Scripture."

Looking ahead to the 2008 Lambeth Conference of the world's Anglican bishops, Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams said he detected little support for reopening the debate.

The resolution condemning gay sex also opposed the ordination of those involved in homosexual relationships and the blessing of gay unions.


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Trying to hold it together at any cost, aren't you Rowan? Well, queers will remember who were the appeasers of our enemies. You are no friend to my community.

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greenie
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posted 09 March 2006 03:59 PM      Profile for greenie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Absolutely disgusting. Well, it just reconfirms the notion that religious institutions and their sheep still cannot grasp the basic concept of human equality and continue to preach hate.
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Boom Boom
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posted 09 March 2006 04:00 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Oh, I think there'll be a fight and/or boycott of Lambeth over this. Our own General Synod is to debate the issue and probably come to a resolution at the next GS (not sure what year it is), and I expect marriage and ordination of gays will pass in the Anglican Church of Canada overwhelmingly. I'm a bit of an optimist.
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Boom Boom
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posted 09 March 2006 04:01 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
By the way, I haven't seen anything from RB in a while. He on holiday somewhere?
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Hephaestion
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posted 09 March 2006 04:04 PM      Profile for Hephaestion   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Boom Boom:

By the way, I haven't seen anything from RB in a while. He on holiday somewhere?


'Zackly. 'cept he told me this time. He'll be back in a week or so, but he *did* take time to post here.

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Boom Boom
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posted 09 March 2006 04:08 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks, Heph, and also for starting this thread. I receive regular e-mailings from the Anglican Communion, and from the Anglican Church of Canada, and will try to post the relevant stuff here. You beat me to it today.
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Heavy Sharper
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posted 09 March 2006 05:03 PM      Profile for Heavy Sharper        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Likely because of fascist Anglican sects in Malaysia, the UK, and Africa.
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Boom Boom
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posted 09 March 2006 07:04 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The next General Synod of the Anglican Church of Canada is in 2007, and I'm quite certain that the results will upset the Archbishop of Canterbury, because the ACC is far ahead of the Church of England on this issue. Also, General Convention Ohio 2006 is coming up in July this year, and that will be a major, major event in the life of the Episcopal (Anglican) Church of the USA, and will likely force the Archbishop of Canterbury to retreat from his position. ECUSA, likewise, is further ahead on these issues that either the Archbishop of Canterbury or the Church of England. William's hand is being tipped by the Archbishop of Nigeria I fear. The
Secretary General of the Anglican Communion apparently believes that ECUSA and the Anglican Church of Canada have done all that was required*
by the Windsor Report. The General Synod of Canada and the General Council of the US are therefore free to go the next step if I understand correctly, and that will be to undermine what the Archbishop of Canterbury just proclaimed regarding Lambeth 2008. I expect confrontations and fireworks soon.

ETA: *I misspoke. There was no "requirement" to comply with the Windsor Report. Appropriate responses were "suggested". ECUSA and ACC accepted the suggestions.

[ 09 March 2006: Message edited by: Boom Boom ]


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Boarsbreath
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posted 10 March 2006 01:01 AM      Profile for Boarsbreath   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It's the old issue. Purity (principle) versus collective size (unity). The Anglicans have done miracles to stay together this long; but I think Africa is just too dynamic, and too much is at stake there...they're gone, pretty soon. (Or England/Canada/USA are gone, depending on how you look at it...the Catholics aren't orthodox and the Orthodox aren't catholic!)
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Euhemeros
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posted 10 March 2006 01:51 AM      Profile for Euhemeros     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Anglicans have undergone major splits before.

Like in the women's ordination issue, a lot of the churhces that split formed the Traditional Anglican Communion (which is actually neogtiating to join the Catholic Church now) or the Continuing Anglicanism Movement (both organizations have some overlap); others went to other churches.

I think this case will see Anglicanism breaking along the lines of entire countries and inside them too. You'll see many form new Anglican Churches, others will join Lutheranism (of the Missouri Synod branch) or Catholicism (with many going to Evangelical churches).

Coincidentally, the Anglican Church of Canada fell to 6.9% in 2001 (a drop of 7% from 1991). Also coincidentally, the membership numbers in Evangelical churches (by 121% since 1991, but still a small percentage overall) continue to rise.


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