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unionist
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posted 20 June 2007 08:47 PM      Profile for unionist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Another in the series of "Stories I Wish I Had Made Up":

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Women MPs in Israel's Knesset have criticised the foreign ministry for resorting to "pornography" to promote Israel abroad after a feature appeared in the men's magazine Maxim featuring four former soldiers photographed in their underwear. [...]

Zahava Gal On, the leader of the Meretz party, said it was inappropriate for western countries to market themselves using half-naked women. "It is unfortunate that the New York consulate thinks that Israel's relevance will be expressed by the use of naked women who are treated as an object, and not as women of substance who exude achievement and success," she said.

Colette Avital, of the Labour party, described the article as a "pornographic campaign to encourage tourism". [...]

Staff at the consulate said that they decided a photoshoot would be a good way of promoting Israel to young Americans.

David Dorfman, an adviser at the consulate in New York, told the Associated Press: "Males that age have no feeling towards Israel one way or another, and we view that as a problem, so we came up with an idea that would be appealing to them."


Guardian Unlimited


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Fidel
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posted 20 June 2007 10:26 PM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
[BeavisOrButthead]What no pics ? he hehehehe hehehehe
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Erstwhile
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posted 22 June 2007 11:35 AM      Profile for Erstwhile     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Fidel:
[BeavisOrButthead]What no pics ? he hehehehe hehehehe

I know I'm gonna regret posting this.

But...here.


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Michelle
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posted 22 June 2007 11:48 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Wow, great. Maybe they can flash their boobs at the Palestinians just before bulldozing their houses while they're at it.

Israeli women are so lucky! Nothing like being objectified in an organization where you have to do mandatory service. There's no life like it, no there's no life like it, no there's...


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Steppenwolf Allende
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posted 22 June 2007 12:12 PM      Profile for Steppenwolf Allende     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hey, looks like the Israeli army has discovered the image of the beautiful sexy killer diva to sell itself.

Kind of brings to mind a new twist to the old adage,

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What's a nice girl like you doing murdering people like this?

The situation just gets more outrageous year after year. Is there still reason to hope?


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Stockholm
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posted 22 June 2007 12:14 PM      Profile for Stockholm     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I guess they call this the "Wonder Woman look"
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Steppenwolf Allende
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posted 22 June 2007 12:17 PM      Profile for Steppenwolf Allende     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
I guess they call this the "Wonder Woman look"

Could be...except she didn't go around killing people or throwing them out of their houses, etc.


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remind
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posted 22 June 2007 12:40 PM      Profile for remind     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Michelle:
Wow, great. Maybe they can flash their boobs at the Palestinians just before bulldozing their houses while they're at it.

Israeli women are so lucky! Nothing like being objectified in an organization where you have to do mandatory service. There's no life like it, no there's no life like it, no there's...


Love the caption "they are drop dead gorgeous"!

Excuse but what were these women thinking?


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Fidel
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posted 22 June 2007 03:59 PM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Erstwhile:

I know I'm gonna regret posting this.

But...here.


I think someone said once that a woman's body is the ultimate pacifier, a symbol of peace and a soothing sight in general. I think they even went so far as to suggest that the sight of half naked women could stop two sides from warring in an instant.

I can't quite put my finger on it as to why, but I'm thinking good thoughts about Israelis for some reason or another.


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remind
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posted 22 June 2007 04:29 PM      Profile for remind     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Fidel:
...someone said once that a woman's body is the ultimate pacifier, a symbol of peace and a soothing sight in general. I think they even went so far as to suggest that the sight of half naked women could stop two sides from warring in an instant.

A symbol of peace, or do you mean piece?

If they stopped fighting for a moment at the sight of naked woman, it would start again in a few seconds over who was going to get to rape her first.


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Pride for Red Dolores
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posted 22 June 2007 04:49 PM      Profile for Pride for Red Dolores     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
came up with an idea that would be appealing to them."

That hits it on the head doesn't it ? I have a hard time believing that anyone would be persuaded to join the Israeli army because of these types of photos.
I also wonder why no one though about the impact of this add on women- in terms of the view of the Israeli army, in terms of recruitment. The objectification of women, war, the military, all these things are linked.

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Jingles
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posted 22 June 2007 04:49 PM      Profile for Jingles     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Maxim should justapose the bodies of the conscripts with the bodies of the women killed by the Israeli terrorist forces in Palestine.

After seeing some of the American's homemade war porn, it would only make it mainstream.


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500_Apples
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posted 22 June 2007 05:35 PM      Profile for 500_Apples   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm not sure what Israel could do. Did these women willingly pose? Are they allowed to do or would they be obligated to not mention they're soldiers?

There seems to be no shortage of physically beautiful woman who want to pose for maxim, FHM, et cetera. I would guess they mostly enjoy the tradeoff of getting tens of thousands of dollars in exchange for being made to be a fantasy.

On the other hand... A friend and I were searching if any of our attractive acquaintances had posed anywhere, and we found her friend's cousin in a European magazine of that soft porn sort. He (my friend's friend) got kind of defensive when she asked, he said the photographer tried to rape her.

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unionist
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posted 22 June 2007 07:00 PM      Profile for unionist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by 500_Apples:
I'm not sure what Israel could do.

Read the thread. Israel organized this. That was the point.


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jester
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posted 22 June 2007 10:22 PM      Profile for jester        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
No one should be forced into restrictive undergarments or socks with sandals.
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Fidel
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posted 22 June 2007 10:23 PM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by remind:

A symbol of peace, or do you mean piece?

If they stopped fighting for a moment at the sight of naked woman, it would start again in a few seconds over who was going to get to rape her first.


I'm just trying to understand the imagery of the message they're trying to get across. Sex appeal combined with such a violent symbol as the military is a visual oxymoron for me, too.

Supremacy of the military and rampant sexism are but two of the defining characteristics of fascism


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