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rasmus
malcontent
Babbler # 621
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posted 21 August 2001 02:46 AM
Certain personalities are adept at getting discounts and concessions everywhere they go. I have a friend who always asks, "What kind of discount can you give me on that?" wherever he goes. And he usually gets one. I never do. He also asks at department stores for a discount, and if the clerk won't give it, asks to speak to the floor manager. And he usually gets the discount. You don't need to wait for sale days!
quote: Why do the sales on staples never take place at the beginning of the month, when most low-income people get their cheques and are completely out of food?
A simple rephrasing provides the answer: Sales on staples never take place at the beginning of the month, because then most low-income people have gotten their cheques and are completely out of food. Evil but true. Low income people are primarily there to make Galen Weston richer.
From: Fortune favours the bold | Registered: May 2001
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Slick Willy
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 184
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posted 24 August 2001 11:58 PM
quote: The seller wants to control the sale. This is done buy using various sales techniques. This will allow them to sell things that the buyer doesn't really need. There are methods they can use to "make" or induce the buyer to feel like they need their product or service.
Have you ever wondered why a large grocery store has a bakery and a deli? Ahh the smell of fresh baked breads and roasted chicken and such. Makes you nice and hungry. It isn't cause distributing the goods from a few locations around town is less profitable. So control is an illusion. You only think someone has control over you because they have convinced you that it is so. Help yourself to see through this smoke screen and you will find that no one controls your mind but you. When it comes to argument, why you need to have something that only hours before you were able to live without, a sharpy will appeal to your baser instincts. Pride, ego, and above all the health and/or well being of your children. Why else would you need a $2000 vacuum? Ask yourself this. Why haven't I died yet, since I haven't had one of these? Buyer beware!
From: Hog Heaven | Registered: Apr 2001
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Michelle
Moderator
Babbler # 560
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posted 25 August 2001 12:19 AM
Oh Slick - but now that you mention it, I WISH I had a $2000 vacuum. Then the floors would practically clean themselves!Oops. Fell for it again. Rats. I've heard that about going to places and asking for discounts. However, the one thing that really ticked me off was when David Tsibouchi made the comment about haggling at the grocery store over dented cans of tuna. Not just because of the dented can thing (can you say botulism?) but just because of the idea of haggling with a cashier who is likely making minimum wage, and has no power whatsoever over the pricing at the store. So what, every customer should haggle with every cashier and hold every line up while the supervisor or manager goes about approving or disapproving every item in every person's grocery cart? It's just unreasonable. However, I have often gotten 10-15% discounts at places like Zellers when the packaging was ripped open or when the product was slightly scratched or damaged in a way that made it look slightly less new, but in no way altered its function. The day I discovered you could do that (and the cashier has the ability to just do it, you know, if they see the damage), I did it every time. Why not? Doesn't hurt the cashier. You just have to have the guts to do it, and endure the incredulous stares of the shoppers behind you in line, that's all. It got so that I started LOOKING for the damaged packages.
From: I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more cowbell. | Registered: May 2001
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Socrataire
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 1000
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posted 25 August 2001 03:51 AM
Are you all trying to start a consumer revolt here?I'm going to report you immediately to CSIS! Actually I totally support pressuring the store (not the cashiers) to lower their prices. Imagine if everybody started doing it. Unfortunately it is very hard to organize consumers for a mass revolt. That's because production and distribution of goods is socially organized but the consumption of the product is done by individuals and that includes both goods and surplus value. I feel my "lecture" persona coming on so I will now drop the subject. [ August 25, 2001: Message edited by: Socrataire ]
From: WWW | Registered: Jul 2001
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Michelle
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Babbler # 560
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posted 25 August 2001 10:56 AM
I was acquainted with a woman once who did that all the time. She was a Queen's student boarding with a friend's mother. She would build stuff, and owned no tools. What she would do is go to Canadian Tire, buy whatever specialty tool she needed at the moment, bring it home, use it the way she needed for a few days, then bring it back for a refund. She used the place like a tool library. I was working as a cashier at the time (at a bakery, not Canadian Tire), and I thought she was a bit of a jerk for doing that. She told me, "But they don't lose anything from it. I return it like new." So I said, "Do you tell them when you buy it that you're going to return it in a few days, after you've used it?" She said, "No, of course not." I said, "Then you're being dishonest." Apparently I was racist for thinking so because she was an international student who didn't have much money (she had more than I did since I was living on minimum wage and she was living on money her rich family was sending her). Oh well. I read that site you posted, Dr. Conway. It was hilarious. I would have LOVED that site when I was working at the bakery - but I had some other friends at the time working retail that I could vent with. I had almost forgotten just how contemptuous I used to be of stupid customers.
From: I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more cowbell. | Registered: May 2001
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Michelle
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Babbler # 560
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posted 26 August 2001 02:04 PM
Mediaboy, I did think of that aspect - being forced to buy and keep something you will only use once. And in your case, it's not like you do it every other day. I mean, this woman did it so often I think they probably groaned when they saw her coming.I don't know what the solution to that is. Too bad there aren't things like tool-lending libraries the way there are book lending libraries. In fact, I'll bet places like Canadian Tire, who have the inventory anyhow, would probably make some decent extra money if they sold lending-library memberships to people (say, $10-20 a year) so that people could borrow an item and return it. If they don't return it on time, the cost automatically gets debited from their credit card, and they've bought it. Then again, I guess it could be argued (especially by that woman I was talking about) that this system is already informally in place - except instead of a membership, you pay the price of the tool as a deposit, then get the money back if you return it in perfect condition within the time limit of the returns policy of the store. Sigh. Guess it's not as black and white as I thought. Darn. I like it when it's black and white. Oh well.
From: I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more cowbell. | Registered: May 2001
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