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Anchoress
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posted 07 January 2005 03:38 PM      Profile for Anchoress     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
VANCOUVER - The growing number of private security guards is creating a two-tier policing system, says the president of the Vancouver Police union.

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Tom Stamatakis says he worries that security companies taking over policing functions is creating a gap between rich and poor neighbourhoods.

"The average person has to phone 911 and wait for police to arrive and may have to wait anywhere from several hours to several days. Where that gap starts to exist, those who can afford it then look for alternatives," he says.

"We find ourselves in a situation where those that have the means can purchase all kinds of security, personal safety. But then what about the poor person?"

Stamatakis says the police department need more money and resources so that poorer neighbourhoods that can't afford to pay can feel secure.


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This is a very topical article, especially considering these two recent threads on babble:

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James
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posted 07 January 2005 06:12 PM      Profile for James        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The Ontario govt. seems anxious to deal with the problem. And none too soon, IMO.
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Cartman
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posted 07 January 2005 06:29 PM      Profile for Cartman        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
A fascinating topic Anchoress. Scary to think that security companies really answer to nobody but other companies may become the so-called "solution" to crime in our society. This is a serious issue that the left better jump on. What better way to demonstrate that we are also interested in peace and security and not "soft" on criminals?
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Phonicidal
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posted 07 January 2005 07:05 PM      Profile for Phonicidal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Is there a chance that the head of this police union is not sincerely expressing concern for the poor? I find it entirely likely that he is actually unhappy about the number of police officers who may not get pay-duty jobs if organizations have their own security guards.

In any case, how would private security for the rich hurt the poor? Presumably it would free up more police officers to help keep the poor secure. And, they wouldn't have to pay a cent. The police just wouldn't be getting extra padding on top of their salary.


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maestro
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posted 08 January 2005 12:31 PM      Profile for maestro     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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In any case, how would private security for the rich hurt the poor? Presumably it would free up more police officers to help keep the poor secure.

If only we could get 'police officers to help keep the poor secure'. The police function is not to keep the poor secure, it is to keep them securely in place.


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Jeit
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posted 10 January 2005 05:43 PM      Profile for Jeit     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I was a security guard for two years. The head of this police union is not even speaking on behalf of police officers.

Police officers hate going to false alarms. It's not only a waste of money, it's not in the public interest. 99% of alarms are false, and the alarm company can usually tell it's false because it triggers only one motion sensor inside the building (something fell).

The police are more than happy to let private security companies with $10/h guards respond to these.

Companies which hire private stationary security guards reduce insurance costs. Many of these jobs are extremely BORING and no police officer would do it.

I worked in Vancouver and found police to be very thankful to me because they knew I was doing the jobs they did not want or need to do.


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