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Hephaestion
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posted 12 January 2006 05:33 PM      Profile for Hephaestion   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I had a thread about this from 'way back, but I can't find it now...
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(London) Police have dropped hate speech charges against a man who called a mounted policeman's horse gay.

Sam Brown, a senior at Oxford, made the remark to the officer when the student was on his way home after a night of partying with friends celebrating the end of exams last May.

He allegedly approached the officer and said, "Excuse me, do you realize your horse is gay?"

A few moment later two police cars approached and he was charged with making "homophobic comments" under the Public Order Act.

Brown refused to pay a fine of about $140 and the Crown Prosecutor prepared for trial.

But Wednesday in court, the charges were dropped.

While both sides agree that the remark was stupid, and made in jest by an intoxicated student, the case shows the difficulty in prosecuting hate speech.

A second, and more serious case, is also likely to end up being dropped legal experts agree.

That one involves Muslim leader Sir Iqbal Sacranie.*


* For more on that case, see this thread.

[ 12 January 2006: Message edited by: Hephaestion ]


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faith
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posted 12 January 2006 06:43 PM      Profile for faith     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Why is it homophobic to tell a policeman his horse is gay ? Unless of course the policeman sees 'gay' as being a very undesirable trait.
In that case it would be the policeman's interpretation of the remark based on his own prejudice which would characterise the policeman's response as homophobic instead of the original remark.

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skeptikool
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posted 12 January 2006 07:01 PM      Profile for skeptikool        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Since it wasn't the horse that brought the charge, it makes the police appear more stupid than they are. But why would a police horse bring such a charge? I've yet to see a morose one. In England, dogs and horses receive as good or better care than the homeless.

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posted 12 January 2006 09:48 PM      Profile for voice of the damned     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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He allegedly approached the officer and said, "Excuse me, do you realize your horse is gay?

Those Brits are a classy lot. Back home in Alberta, the thing to do would be to drive by in a pickup truck and yell "your horse is a fag!!" out the window. But on the hallowed old streets of Oxford, it's all proper sentences prefaced with apologetic phrases.

On a more serious note, the original "hate speech" charge strikes me as an attempt to prosecute someone for insulting the police, under the guise of battling hate crimes. I doubt that this guy would have suffered any legal repercussions had he gone up to Joe Blow Average Citizen and told him his dog was gay.


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MartinArendt
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posted 12 January 2006 09:59 PM      Profile for MartinArendt     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
"I do beg your pahdon, m'lud, but...are you quite aware of your horse's gay nature? It's positively astounding!"

"Oi! Roight! Come wit' me, then! We're off ter the pen!"


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