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Noise
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posted 08 October 2008 08:29 AM      Profile for Noise     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
GropenFlail is covering it of course.

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Mr. Layton returned to Edmonton to do what might seem to be the impossible: breach the Conservative walls of Alberta.

But the party says it has hopes for Ray Martin, the former head of the provincial NDP who is running in Edmonton East, and environmentalist Linda Duncan who is running in Edmonton Strathcona.

The NDP must take away Conservative seats if it is to play a major role in the next government, regardless of the final outcome on election night.


Heres hoping it helps boost Martin's and Duncan's campaign. If it means anything, we're cheering for you here.

I kinda wish he'd come to the calgary city center with this poverty policy... That'd make me giddy, never seen a party leader in person before. Doubtful it'd win a seat or anything, but it'd inspire our campaign teams

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remind
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posted 08 October 2008 08:36 AM      Profile for remind     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Noise:
[QB] Heres hoping it helps boost Martin's and Duncan's campaign. If it means anything, we're cheering for you here.

I kinda wish he'd come to the calgary city center with this poverty policy... That'd make me giddy, never seen a party leader in person before. Doubtful it'd win a seat or anything, but it'd inspire our campaign teams



He was in Courtenay yesterday with Catherine Bell, and they managed to get her into most every shot the press had of him. Which is a good thing.

Hopefully we get those 2 seats in Edmonton, the NDP has been advertising heavily on the Edmonton
TV stations. And not so much in BC, which I believe was a mistake.


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Noise
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posted 08 October 2008 08:48 AM      Profile for Noise     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Hopefully we get those 2 seats in Edmonton, the NDP has been advertising heavily on the Edmonton
TV stations.

I wonder what the message is on those ads as there are a few angles to play... I was under the impression that if the Liberal vote collapsed and Layton made the appeal to them, there was enough of a Lib+NDP vote to defeat the conservatives. On the other hand, perhaps the environmental votes will ditch conservative and line-up behind Duncan readily, if they haven't already... Who knows, the apathetic youth vote might be a little less apathetic if their media suggests they might have a choice for a change. Any idea on what the message might be Remind?


Laytons changing his wording a bit from what I'm used to seeing as well:

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“It just shows how out of touch the Conservative government is with the hard-working families of this country, with the pensioners of this country,” said Mr. Layton. “And it shows that he doesn't care.”

I didn't see any of the working family references in there, though I'd like to get a copy of his speech to fully read. Apparently we're either 'ordinary working families' or 'hard-work families'. Personally, I'd like to see the 'families' term completely ditched to something more inclusive than the standard definition of family.

I really like seeing Layton in Alberta (even if it is 300 km away from me)... Makes the NDP feel more like a nationwide party. err, atleast to me.


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remind
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posted 08 October 2008 08:56 AM      Profile for remind     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The messaging has been heavily focused on the environment, and health care worker shortages, along with training initiatives.
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DrConway
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posted 08 October 2008 10:37 AM      Profile for DrConway     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I agree that the NDP's program should be pitched at single people too, but the people who bitch and groan the most about taxes, their wages, taxes, their job, taxes, school for the kids, taxes, etc are probably more likely to be working parents who have to support children, and are usually the most susceptible to the hogwash the Cons and Libs have pushed about how they're "overtaxed", never mind that rich people probably pay less in tax than they do as a portion of income.

The NDP needs to grab these people and promote the community of interest they all have with each other to be able to get the seats they need to be a real force in Parliament.

Also, it takes some of the zing out of the "family values" crap the Cons shove out when the NDP folks are committed to more family values than the Cons are. It's a family value to be able to lessen the monetary strain on a working couple by giving them an extra child credit and lowering their taxes so the big boys can pay the freight in this country.

If you've ever seen marriages get wrecked over money matters then you know that the kinds of policies the Cons promote will just do more of this.


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Noise
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posted 08 October 2008 10:41 AM      Profile for Noise     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That should play decently well.

There's a guy infront of City Hall running around with a stop Harper sign, but I couldn't read the website he had on his sign... The other side had 'Day 4 of the Hunger strike'. I guess thats one way of trying to make a difference in politics.

I think this is him (random gropenflail article):

quote:
One man's campaign to get out the green message
Dawn Walton, 07/10/08 at 5:41 PM EDT

Korry Zepik was so disgusted by the Conservative policy on global warming he hopped on a bus bound for Calgary from his home in the British Columbia interior to stage a hunger strike at the campaign office belonging to Leader Stephen Harper.

The 51-year-old former Alberta oil sands worker and current window washer from Vernon explained that the Tories are in denial about climate change. They are focusing on greenhouse gas emission intensity, not actual emissions reductions, he complained.


ETA: Nope, thats a different activist. Heh, apparently starving yourself is becoming a popular form of political activism here.

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Noise
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posted 08 October 2008 10:57 AM      Profile for Noise     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
DR.Conway:
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I agree that the NDP's program should be pitched at single people too, but the people who bitch and groan the most about taxes, their wages, taxes, their job, taxes, school for the kids, taxes, etc are probably more likely to be working parents who have to support children

I'd say it depends on your demographics and who you're trying to appeal to... The 'traditional family' that you're speaking to (atleast around here) trend towards perma-conservative voters (go team blue!) while the 'single' (youth) vote are the unclaimed votes... Appeal to the perma-cons all you want, but you're not going to change their vote.

Really though, how hard can it be to switch from working families to working people?

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Also, it takes some of the zing out of the "family values" crap the Cons shove out when the NDP folks are committed to more family values than the Cons are

The only people that press the conservatives as 'the family value party' are lifetime conservatives, usually born into it, and you're not changing they're vote anytime soon. Err, and if the NDP was more committed to the types of family values the Cons are, I wouldn't be voting NDP


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