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Nanuq
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posted 13 February 2008 11:17 AM      Profile for Nanuq   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
From Alternet:
"Today, more than 23,000 representatives of private industry are working quietly with the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security. The members of this rapidly growing group, called InfraGard, receive secret warnings of terrorist threats before the public does -- and, at least on one occasion, before elected officials. In return, they provide information to the government, which alarms the ACLU. But there may be more to it than that. One business executive, who showed me his InfraGard card, told me they have permission to "shoot to kill" in the event of martial law. InfraGard is "a child of the FBI," says Michael Hershman, the chairman of the advisory board of the InfraGard National Members Alliance and CEO of the Fairfax Group, an international consulting firm."

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remind
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posted 13 February 2008 11:30 AM      Profile for remind     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think this, or something very much like this, has always been happening and that they are just being more open about it these days.
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martin dufresne
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posted 13 February 2008 11:42 AM      Profile for martin dufresne   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
...they have permission to "shoot to kill" in the event of martial law...
Isn't that the present state of things?

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wwSwimming
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posted 13 February 2008 12:31 PM      Profile for wwSwimming     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by martin dufresne:
Isn't that the present state of things?

I think America's domestic policy has changed a lot in the last 25 years. the Feeling in corporate America, that combination of desperation & false heartiness, the drive to squeeze blood from a stone, has intensified.

Courtesy & neighborliness, a rare commodity.

I notice a coarsening of the culture, in terms of how people interact with each other, in San Francisco for example. having lived & visited there a few times over the last 30 years.

at the same time, the Police State ization of America is proceeding apace.

but that's internal, domestic.

Foreign policy ? I think America has always been pretty brutal. From wrenching the land away from the Indians, to the war of 1898 (Spanish-American war.) America has been killing cultures & civilians in large numbers since 1898 (200,000 Philipino people met their demise at American hands, according to Zinn in his People's History book.)

remembering Vietnam ... it SEEMS like the dichotomy (divergence ?) between what comes out of Condoleeza Rice's mouth (when she talks about democracy in the mideast, for example) and American actions (the Iraq War, the Afghanistan War, the non-investigation into 9-11), that divergence is growing.

so, to Summarize, i'm saying America's bellicosity on the world stage seems to have ratcheted up when Bush 43 came to office.

and that a related set of parallel, concomitant changes are occurring inside the country.


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