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M. Spector
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posted 29 October 2008 04:18 PM      Profile for M. Spector   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
In convicting Momin Khawaja on Wednesday on terrorism-related charges, Justice Douglas Rutherford was unable to conclude that Khawaja knowingly contributed to the commission of specific terrorist acts, but it was enough, in the opinion of the judge, that he was a supporter in general of "violent Jihad" and knew he was dealing with a group of men who also supported "violent Jihad" in Afghanistan.

This equating of violence with terrorism creates a precedent that can be used against others who resist imperialist aggression by violent means - but of course, not against those who plan and contribute to imperialist violence.

Excerpts from the decision:

quote:
7. The evidence makes it clear that in the case of Momin Khawaja and those he associated with in the London area Khyam group, and those he connected with in relation to the northern Pakistan training camp, ‘Jihad’ meant a violent struggle with the objective of establishing Islamic dominance, wherever possible....

129. In my view, in supporting the Jihad that brought violence to the citizens, the armed forces and the legitimate Government of Afghanistan, and to the armed forces welcomed by that legitimate Government to help it with the United Nations approved and authorized reconstruction, the group consisting of Khyam, Babar, Garcia Amin, Akbar and others became a terrorist group...

131. In my view, there is ample evidence apart from the support and preparation for violent Jihad with the Mujahideen in Afghanistan or elsewhere, establishing that Momin Khawaja knew he was dealing with a group whose objects and purposes included activity that meets the Code definition of terrorist activity. His most tangible and visible facilitation of that activity was his work in developing the hifidigimonster, the remote trigger for an IED.


So it appears that anyone who resists the foreign invasion of Afghanistan by helping to build IED's is a terrorist.

This is Guantanamo-style justice imported into the Canadian legal system.

I wonder if those champions of "human rights" who want to "bring Omar Khadr to justice" in Canada would be happy to have him tried by Mr. Justice Rutherford?


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kropotkin1951
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posted 29 October 2008 06:02 PM      Profile for kropotkin1951   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
His lawyer seemed to be pleased with the verdict because he was acquitted of the charges of being directly involved in the London bombings. Since Greenspan is no dummy my guess is he now has a very good Charter argument to go after this particular piece of fascist law making.
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Mr.Canada
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posted 30 October 2008 09:51 AM      Profile for Mr.Canada     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I see so protecting citizens is facist? Lol, only at rabble.

The man was obviously involved in terrorism, lets not be naive.


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Michelle
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posted 30 October 2008 10:08 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
He's gone, don't bother responding to the bait, folks.
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oldgoat
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posted 30 October 2008 10:09 AM      Profile for oldgoat     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Did we both do this at the exact same time again?

Spooky.

Actually, I think I got there first.


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Michelle
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posted 30 October 2008 10:11 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes. But as I said in the other thread, I said it first publicly. Then I went to lock the account and you had already done it.

Marvelously efficient, really. A team effort.


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oldgoat
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posted 30 October 2008 10:12 AM      Profile for oldgoat     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yup. It's amazing what two people with half a brain can accomplish when they pool their efforts.
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QatzelOk
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posted 01 November 2008 11:22 AM      Profile for QatzelOk        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
The evidence makes it clear that in the case of Momin Khawaja and those he associated with in the London area Khyam group, and those he connected with in relation to the northern Pakistan training camp, ‘Jihad’ meant a violent struggle with the objective of establishing Islamic dominance, wherever possible....

The emphais on "association" in the terrorist-accusing narrative is really trying to spread alienation. "Be careful not to associate with philosophical Muslims" is the message of our rich and paranoid media owners.

I guess we're supposed to listen to the texts that these media gate-keepers sell us, rather than any kind of alternative that hasn't been teinted by mega-money.


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Prometheus30
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posted 04 November 2008 04:29 AM      Profile for Prometheus30     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Canada lead the way in banning anti-pers landmines (awesome).

IEDs are very nasty anti-pers landmines, very big ones too. Unlike anti tank mines where often a full grown man will not weight enough to set it off (unless it's modified) a child can set off an IED consisting of 3 stacked anti-tank mines.

By making IEDs people are directly putting men women the elderly and children in danger.
Sure I can see targeting evil devil invader soldiers specifically but I've been in a number of IED hits and I'll tell you 9 times out of 10 when their is civilian casualties their innocent bystanders.

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M. Spector
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posted 04 November 2008 11:12 AM      Profile for M. Spector   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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A striking aspect of the verdict, however, although it was given little attention in the media coverage, was the rationale given by Justice Douglas Rutherford for rejecting Khawaja’s defence. That defence was that Khawaja thought the detonator was for use in fighting the NATO occupation of Afghanistan — for example in triggering the improvised explosive devices commonly used by the Afghan resistance. This activity, the defence argued, fell outside the definition of “terrorist activity” in the legislation, which excepts “an act or omission that is committed during an armed conflict. . . in accordance with customary international law or conventional international law applicable to the conflict.”

Judge endorses Canada’s war in Afghanistan

The Ontario Superior Court judge acknowledged “an abundance of evidence that Momin Khawaja’s central objective was to play a role in the fighting in Afghanistan….” But in ruling that any such role would be “terrorist activity”, he explicitly underwrote the excuse given by successive Liberal and Conservative governments for Canada’s Afghan war.

The judge adopted the justification given for the initial imperialist attack on Afghanistan: “In response to the attack on the twin towers in New York on 9/11, the U.S.A. and the U.K. sent troops and equipment into Afghanistan with the objective of capturing Bin Laden, destroying al Qa’eda and removing the Taliban regime.” (paragraph 114 of the judgment) Then, citing a series of United Nations Security Council resolutions subsequently endorsing the assault on Afghanistan and authorizing continued occupation and fighting by the NATO-led International Assistance Security Force [ISAF], the judge declared that he took “judicial notice as well, that Canada, along with other North Atlantic Treaty Organization countries, has contributed personnel and resources to the ISAF and that to date some 100 of Canada’s armed forces personnel have been killed in fighting with insurgent forces opposing the initial American and British and subsequent United Nations intervention in support of a reconstructed and democratic Afghanistan.” (paragraph 124)

(By “judicial notice”, the Judge was referring to the legal doctrine that courts, without hearing evidence on the matter, are entitled, as the Judge says, to “resort to certain notorious facts . . . which I think are beyond dispute among reasonable people.”)

And he concluded:

“. . . it seems to me beyond debate that, subject to the applicability of the exclusionary ‘armed conflict’ clause, those who support and participate in the insurgent armed hostilities against the civilian population, the government, and government and coalition forces attempting to reconstruct and maintain peace, order and security in Afghanistan, are, by definition, engaging in terrorist activity. Seen through the lens of a court of Canada, a Member State of the United Nations, I do not think it can be viewed otherwise. News reports of insurgent attacks in Afghanistan are characterized daily in the news as ‘terrorist’ and not surprisingly since, subject to the armed conflict clause, they meet the definition of terrorist activity in the Criminal Code. It seems self-evident that the armed insurgency in Afghanistan is

- intended in whole or in part to intimidate the population or that segment of it that supports the legitimate government and those assisting it in its reconstruction and establishing of peace and order with regard to their security, and intended to compel the population, the government, NATO, the United Nations and all those agencies supporting the reconstruction and democratization efforts to refrain and desist, and

- that consequential death and destruction is caused and reported throughout the world on a daily basis.” (paragraph 125)

Largely on that basis, the judge held that the “armed conflict” exception in the Anti-Terrorism Act had no application to the case. He quoted his ruling in a motion on the defence argument during the trial:

“The exception shields those who do acts while engaged in an armed conflict that would otherwise fit the definition of terrorist activity from prosecution as terrorists as long as the acts are within the internationally recognized principles governing warfare. Momin Khawaja was not so engaged.”

In other words, Canadian troops could not be convicted of “terrorist activity” while fighting in Afghanistan. But Afghan insurgents fighting in self-defence and to expel occupying armies — or those assisting the insurgents — could be so charged and convicted....

The Khawaja verdict makes clear that the “terrorist” label can be slapped on any armed resistance to Canadian and NATO troops in Afghanistan or elsewhere. It ominously echoes the reasoning of the Bush Administration in another case involving a young Canadian Muslim — Omar Khadr, the Canadian child soldier who has been imprisoned and tortured by the U.S. military in Guantánamo since 2001, and is now charged with killing a U.S. soldier in Afghanistan during a U.S. attack on his family’s residence that killed his father. There is now eyewitness evidence that Khadr did not shoot the soldier in question. And there is a mounting movement in Canada demanding the return to this country of this last remaining citizen of a Western power being held in Guantánamo.

However, even if Khadr is returned to Canada what is his likely fate? He may not be prosecuted for murder. But following the judge’s reasoning in Khawaja’s case, is it excluded that Khadr, as a non-military “enemy combatant” in Afghanistan, could be considered a “terrorist” in Canadian law and subject to the extreme penalties in the Anti-Terrorism Act?


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