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Topic: GOP Makes Drive By Smear of Canada
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siren
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posted 24 October 2006 08:10 PM
What a strange ad. I mean it is not even clear you can call Republican candidate Bob Corker anti-Canadian (a la anti American as all non con politicians are routinely labelled here). quote: A spokeswoman for Corker's campaign told CanWest News Service that the Republican candidate has ''condemned the ad, and doesn't think it's an appropriate ad.''Under U.S. election laws, Corker is not allowed to communicate directly to the Republican national campaign on advertising.
Well that must be fun - to run in a campaign where party headquarters, i.e. Karl Rove, gets to play things of which you don't even approve. Do the Dems really want Canada to run world affairs? The take in the US seems to be the racism angle, but I rather think it is largely a pornography bent. quote: Critics said the ad, which is funded by the Republican National Committee and has aired since Friday, plays on fears of interracial relationships to scare some white voters in rural Tennessee to oppose Democratic Rep. Harold E. Ford Jr. Ford is locked in a tight race, hoping to become the first African American senator since Reconstruction to represent a state in the former Confederacy.
Kind of reminds me of an exchange I had with an American shortly after Harper was elected. That no matter how hard Harper tried to toady -- Bush was just so indifferently toxic that Bush would sour the relationship no matter how servile Harper proved.
From: Of course we could have world peace! But where would be the profit in that? | Registered: Nov 2004
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Américain Égalitaire
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posted 24 October 2006 08:18 PM
quote: Originally posted by 500_Apples: American Egalitaire,What's the mean IQ of test audiences for television ads in Tennessee? I watched the ad, and then I watched it again, because I couldn't believe how incompetent it was. All the people in the advertisement come off as idiots except for the white guy with the sunglasses who comes off as a typical cynic. I hope those bastards get nailed.
Apples: Tennessee is Tennessee. What can you say? These people test market these ads and they KNOW they will have an impact. This ad may indeed give this tight race to Corker. Ford didn't help himself much a few days ago by publicly fronting up Corker in a parking lot where Corker was giving a press conference. Corker had been ducking a debate. The hypocrisy is if the roles were reversed, people in Tenn. would be praising Corker as tough and a guy who 'walks tall' (Tennesee was home to the Sheriff Buford Pusser mythology). But for Ford to do it is portrayed as 'uppity.' The GOP had serious fears based on polling data, that the bumpkins were going to sit this one out so they had to find a way to galvanize the dispirited rednecks. This ad really fills the bill - not only does it play the race card it gets in the gun issue (very important in the south), the death tax, the terrorism issue and takes a swipe at Canada - all in 30 seconds. And its so outrageous that its getting airplay all over America on all the news/talk shows. Brilliant. Racist, stupid, offensive, sexist, pandering, patronising, but in American politics that's what works. For this the GOP may win Tennessee and keep control of the Senate. And I just know there are racists in Virginia who are sticking with Allen BECAUSE of the flak he took over the "macaca" remarks. And people get on my case for being a pessimist. I have reason.
From: Chardon, Ohio USA | Registered: Jan 2005
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jeff house
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posted 25 October 2006 01:57 PM
The idea that the Republicans are not responsible is strictly for children. quote: Mehlman said the RNC was not, in fact, responsible. He said the ad was produced by an independent group contracted by the RNC
I think that should be: an "independent" group, since obviously the people they contract to do their dirty work will be VERY carefully chosen. I note that Siren isn't convinced that this is a racist ad. But ANY ad in Tennessee in which a white woman refers to having sexual contact with a black man, is inherently racist, playing upon hundreds of years of fears and oppression. I understand why people not-from-Tennessee might not "see" the links; that's the genius of the ad! You have to be a racist to really get it.
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Vansterdam Kid
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posted 25 October 2006 02:11 PM
For the purposes of this ad, subtle racism, it's perfect. All the references in it, that don't pertain to the blonde woman who 'met' Harold Ford and the guy with the sunglasses talking about him 'taking money from porn directors', including the dig at Canada, are throughly forgettable and hugely inane. That's preciscley because the creators of this add, like Jeff said, want 'the right kind of' people to remember the right kind of 'facts'. If you watch the add, you'll see that the woman who 'met' Ford, stands out because she's way louder than everyone else, and the sleeze sunglasses guy is well...way sleezer than everyone else. Here's an intresting link that summerizes the problem with the add, and includes links to videos about the ad. quote: Trust me, if the RNC wanted the ad pulled they could pull it. It's a patent falsehood to say otherwise.
From: bleh.... | Registered: Apr 2004
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John K
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posted 25 October 2006 06:50 PM
Catchfire, I suspect you're not the target audience for the ad.The Repubs are not rank amateurs. Look how quickly they fought back against the Michael J Fox ad in Missouri by dragging out their own celebrities. Patricia Heaton ought to be ashamed. None of this may be enough to turn the mid-term tide but the strategy is probably to stem the bleeding.
From: Edmonton | Registered: Nov 2002
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Dex
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posted 25 October 2006 07:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by John K: the strategy is probably to stem the bleeding.
Sadly, I disagree. This is the sort of advertising (playing on racial tensions, not the other stuff)-- both subtle and overt-- that welcomes each and every Democratic challenger for high level positions who happens to be black. All of this is a vestige of the republicans' addiction to the Southern Strategy. I can understand how some people here who live in Canada might not feel there is any overt racism in the ad. You have to understand, however, that in the south, the inter-racial thing is a VERY BIG DEAL. I have come face to face with it in my own life and from an observer standpoint in many different southern and not so southern states.In addition, most political pundits refer to a concept, whose name I cannot stand and won't repeat here, but basically it is a term coined to reflect the reality in American politics: white people often say they don't mind voting for black politicians. When it comes time to actually do so, however, the anonymity of the ballot box means that in comparing the voting intentions/claims (opinion, entry and sometimes even exit polls) of white folks for black candidates with ACTUAL voting patterns, the anonymity of the ballot box means that black candidates receive roughly 10% fewer votes. These ads are designed specifically to play into that cowardice. [ 25 October 2006: Message edited by: Dex ] [ 25 October 2006: Message edited by: Dex ]
From: ON then AB then IN now KS. Oh, how I long for a more lefterly location. | Registered: Aug 2004
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quelar
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posted 25 October 2006 09:00 PM
Anti-Racist (Black woman likes White man...so what?), Pro Privacy (Isn't everyone Innocent until proven guilty?), Pro-Choice (he will LET you), Pro-Gun Control (How about we compromise, keep them, we just want to know you have them, ok?) Pro-Sexual Choice (Playboy....gay..your business, not mine), Pro-Union (Marriages are a type of Union right?), Pro-Canadian (Yeah, You've F'ed things up enough elsewhere, we'll take this one), Pro-Business (Business prospering means more tax dollars for Schools and Kyoto Targets!),Wow, you're correct, he's not right, he's left!! Can we run this as an NDP ad next election?? oh...and Pro-Freedom of information - (Unobstructed telecommunications).
From: In Dig Nation | Registered: Jun 2002
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the grey
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posted 26 October 2006 10:16 AM
quote: Originally posted by scribblet: Actually it wasn't either political party, it was third party advertising. by the Republican Ideas Political Committee, a not very well known group with no official tie to GOP organizations.[ 25 October 2006: Message edited by: scribblet ]
But the why does the ad have this statement at the close? quote:
The Republican National Committee is responsible for the content of this advertisement, paid for by the Republican National Committee and not authorized by any candidate or candidates committee.
From: London, Ontario | Registered: Jan 2003
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josh
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posted 26 October 2006 10:56 AM
Because it was a RNC ad. quote: The Republican National Committee said Wednesday it was taking off the air an attack ad that critics said was a racial slur against Democratic Tennessee Senate candidate Harold Ford Jr., one day after the party’s chairman said he saw nothing wrong with it. . . . . Officially, the ad was commissioned and paid for by the RNC’s independent expenditure unit, which isn’t allowed to coordinate or communicate with the national party or its candidates. That became a point of contention as Republicans fought among themselves over who was responsible for the spot. Even though it included a disclaimer that said “the Republican National Committee is responsible for the content of this advertising,” Mehlman maintained Tuesday that the RNC couldn’t do anything about it.
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/15418962/ Of course, the ad replacing it isn't much of an improvement:
quote: In its place is a new spot called “Shaky,” which started airing Sunday in Knoxville but has expanded statewide. It alleges that Ford “took cash from Hollywood's top X-rated porn moguls” and that he “wants to give the abortion pill to our schoolchildren.”
From: the twilight zone between the U.S. and Canada | Registered: Aug 2002
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josh
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posted 27 October 2006 06:20 AM
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On the brink of what could be a power-shifting election, it is kitchen-sink time: Desperate candidates are throwing everything. While negative campaigning is a tradition in American politics, this year's version in many races has an eccentric shade, filled with allegations of moral bankruptcy and sexual perversion. . . . . The result has been a carnival of ugly, especially on the GOP side, where operatives are trying to counter what polls show is a hostile political environment by casting opponents as fatally flawed characters. The National Republican Campaign Committee is spending more than 90 percent of its advertising budget on negative ads, according to GOP operatives, and the rest of the party seems to be following suit. A few examples of the "character issues" taking center stage two weeks before Election Day: · In New York, the NRCC ran an ad accusing Democratic House candidate Michael A. Arcuri, a district attorney, of using taxpayer dollars for phone sex. "Hi, sexy," a dancing woman purrs. "You've reached the live, one-on-one fantasy line." It turns out that one of Arcuri's aides had tried to call the state Division of Criminal Justice, which had a number that was almost identical to that of a porn line. The misdial cost taxpayers $1.25.
· In Ohio, GOP gubernatorial candidate J. Kenneth Blackwell, trailing by more than 20 points in polls, has accused front-running Democratic Rep. Ted Strickland of protecting a former aide who was convicted in 1994 on a misdemeanor indecency charge. Blackwell's campaign is also warning voters through suggestive "push polls" that Strickland failed to support a resolution condemning sex between adults and children. Strickland, a psychiatrist, objected to a line suggesting that sexually abused children cannot have healthy relationships when they grow up. · The Republican Party of Wisconsin distributed a mailing linking Democratic House candidate Steve Kagen to a convicted serial killer and child rapist. The supposed connection: The "bloodthirsty" attorney for the killer had also done legal work for Kagen. · In two dozen congressional districts, a political action committee supported by a white Indianapolis businessman, J. Patrick Rooney, is running ads saying Democrats want to abort black babies. A voice says, "If you make a little mistake with one of your hos, you'll want to dispose of that problem tout de suite, no questions asked."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/26/AR2006102601811.html
From: the twilight zone between the U.S. and Canada | Registered: Aug 2002
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