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rasmus
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posted 06 January 2007 09:04 PM      Profile for rasmus   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Shulamit Aloni, the Israeli Prize laureate who once served as Minister of Education under Yitzhak Rabin, writes:

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A new order issued by the GOC Central command bans the conveyance of Palestinians in Israeli vehicles. Such a blatant violation of the right to travel joins the long list of human rights violations carried out by Israel in the [Occupied] Territories.

Jewish self-righteousness is taken for granted among ourselves to such an extent that we fail to see whatís right in front of our eyes. Itís simply inconceivable that the ultimate victims, the Jews, can carry out evil deeds. Nevertheless, the state of Israel practises its own, quite violent, form of Apartheid with the native Palestinian population.

The US Jewish Establishmentís onslaught on former President Jimmy Carter is based on him daring to tell the truth which is known to all: through its army, the government of Israel practises a brutal form of Apartheid in the territory it occupies. Its army has turned every Palestinian village and town into a fenced-in, or blocked-in, detention camp. All this is done in order to keep an eye on the populationís movements and to make its life difficult. Israel even imposes a total curfew whenever the settlers, who have illegally usurped the Palestiniansí land, celebrate their holidays or conduct their parades.


Indeed there is apartheid in Israel

This article by Shulamit Aloni is from Yediot Acharonot, Israelís largest circulating newspaper. It appeared in the Hebrew Ynet but not in the English-language Ynetnews.

Translated by Sol Salbe, an Australian editor, whose comments are in square brackets. Hebrew original in Yediot Acharonot.

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posted 07 January 2007 01:00 AM      Profile for Coyote   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thank you for posting this, Rasmus.
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posted 07 January 2007 10:38 AM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Problem is that most Zionist have longs since forgotten who Yitzhak Rabin was.
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Cueball
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posted 07 January 2007 11:44 PM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 

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posted 08 January 2007 05:48 AM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Lets talk about Darfur!
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posted 08 January 2007 06:39 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Heh.
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posted 08 January 2007 06:45 AM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Its about time to have a thread about Darfur. When one wants to talk about the embattled people of Darfur, its a sure bet that the best way to get those stalwart defenders of everything that is true and right in the world to coment on the situation there, is to start talking about Israeli Apartheid.

In fact, no discussion of Darfur is ever begun by those staunch defenders of everything that is good and right in the world, unless we start talking about Israeli Apartheid.

We know that when Rasmus cleverly posted this piece that he was really using this strategem to start talking about Darfur not the West Bank.

So, I heard that the UN mission is investigating charges of rape by UN forces in Darfur, is it the case?

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posted 08 January 2007 09:13 AM      Profile for johnpauljones     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ihope you are wrong about this because I remember if not starting threads on Darfur then participating in threads on darfur ranging from about events and rallies to other types of humanitarian actions

But it is good time to start talking about the work that organizations like Save Darfur Canada Coalition, CASTS, STAND Canada, CJC, Kairos, Project Ploughshares, Warchild Canada, the Reform Judaism Movement, Project equity and the World Federalist Movement to name but a few.

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Originally posted by Cueball:
In fact, no discussion of Darfur is ever begun by those staunch defenders of everything that is good and right in the world, unless we start talking about Israeli Apartheid.

[ 08 January 2007: Message edited by: Cueball ]



Cueball I am very involved in Darfur advocacy. if you would like more info pm me.


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posted 08 January 2007 11:25 AM      Profile for Petsy        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by johnpauljones:
Ihope you are wrong about this because I remember if not starting threads on Darfur then participating in threads on darfur ranging from about events and rallies to other types of humanitarian actions

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Cueball wrong...well yes

Darfur 1

Darfur 2

Darfur 3

Darfur 4

And many more ...none of these started by the pro-Israel crowd...BTW JPJ you indeed did start a thread though I didnt list it here. At last count there were something like 15 threads on Darfur.

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posted 08 January 2007 01:12 PM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Petsy:

Cueball wrong...well yes



Darfur 1: posted 26 July 2004 01:37 PM
Darfur 2: posted 19 September 2004 01:13 AM
Darfur 3: is about Haiti
Darfur 4: Is about African Relief in geberal

What does your experiment show? Other than the fact that it shows your research skills are somewhat needing of attention, it shows that there is very little sincere interest in the issue, except when it pops up as a convenient sop for absorbing negative reportage of Israeli Apartheid, of course the patern begins anew today with JPJ latest, posted after this, of course.

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posted 08 January 2007 01:24 PM      Profile for johnpauljones     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Cueball:
the patern begins anew today with JPJ latest, posted after this, of course.

[ 08 January 2007: Message edited by: Cueball ]


Since you are so concerned about Darfur and the plight of those killed maimed and slaughtered by the Janjeweed Militia Why did you not start a thread?


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posted 08 January 2007 01:29 PM      Profile for Petsy        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Oh my goodness woe is me I made an error in copying one of the more than 25 hits I got on the Babble search engine when I searched Darfur. If you dont like my research skills get up off your arse and do it yourself. the fact is you are wrong. There are many threads on Darfur. So stop being so petulant.

Oh and BTW, happy new year Cueball.

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posted 08 January 2007 01:31 PM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by johnpauljones:

Since you are so concerned about Darfur and the plight of those killed maimed and slaughtered by the Janjeweed Militia Why did you not start a thread?


How about those charges of rape against the UN force in Darfur.


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posted 08 January 2007 01:31 PM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Petsy:
Oh my goodness woe is me I made an error in copying one of the more than 25 hits I got on the Babble search engine when I searched Darfur. If you dont like my research skills get up off your arse and do it yourself. the fact is you are wrong. There are many threads on Darfur. So stop being so petulant.

Oh and BTW, happy new year Cueball.

[ 08 January 2007: Message edited by: Petsy ]


Two mistakes, out of four. That is 50%.

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posted 09 January 2007 11:25 AM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by johnpauljones:

Since you are so concerned about Darfur and the plight of those killed maimed and slaughtered by the Janjeweed Militia Why did you not start a thread?


Interesting point.


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posted 09 January 2007 07:55 PM      Profile for B.L. Zeebub LLD     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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This article by Shulamit Aloni is from Yediot Acharonot, Israelís largest circulating newspaper. It appeared in the Hebrew Ynet but not in the English-language Ynetnews.

Where's MEMRI when you need them most?


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posted 09 January 2007 07:57 PM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I wonder why it didn't get sent around to all the major news outlets by them, as they do with all the really screeechy Imams?
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posted 09 January 2007 08:01 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Heh. I seem to be on all the Likudnik mailing lists or something. I get anti-Arab crap from The Media Line, Canadian Coalition for Democracies, and I think another one whose name I forget right now.

I always mark them as "spam" in Cloudmark since they're racist crap that I certainly never signed up for.


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