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thorin_bane
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posted 06 November 2008 04:22 AM      Profile for thorin_bane     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
OK while watching the your turn segment during the election, I was beginning to get frustrated with SM. I thought it was because the show was 'candid' that she was relaxed and giggling a lot. But I have been off and she has been on the news a lot. I can't stand the way she delivers news, I don't know why, just the tone or something. Much the same as how michelle started the olbermann thread, is there just some peoples delivery that grates on your nerves, or that you like. I used to like the sound of Andrea Ratuski(sp) from Northern Lights on CBC radio 1. Still pissed off that they took her show off the air for reruns(which I do like) Or more accurately the CBC continues it slide into the dungpile of programming.

[ 06 November 2008: Message edited by: thorin_bane ]


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posted 06 November 2008 07:05 AM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Suhana Meharchand presumably has been trained as a morning news anchor, so assigning her to other tasks (such as the election) might not be a good fit for her. This morning Bob MacDonald (from CBC's "Quirks and Quarks" science program) was her guest, talking about the difficulties of manned flight to Mars (and using lighter space suits to go to the moon) and she was completely out of her depth. Peter Mansbridge in the evening does a much better job with MacDonald, but even he's overwhelmed by science issues, and he's been doing the news for, what, thirty years?
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posted 06 November 2008 07:09 AM      Profile for pogge   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Boom Boom:
Suhana Meharchand presumably has been trained as a morning news anchor...

Not necessarily. At one time she was the local dinner time anchor in Toronto. That's years ago.


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posted 06 November 2008 07:19 AM      Profile for Tommy_Paine     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Science literacy in the media has been much derided over the years. I think if interviewers put as much emphasis on science literacy as they do pop culture or celebrity knowledge, we'd see a hundredty zillion percent improvement in the coverage.

I think the problem may lie with news producers who are afraid (justifiably?) that science coverage will lose them audience share.
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What gets me looking for something to throw at the t.v. is when interviewers intentionally play dumb because they think they are identifying with what they think are the dumb asses in thier audience. They don't give the public much credit.


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posted 06 November 2008 12:16 PM      Profile for thorin_bane     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I saw the interview and she was upset because bob took a poke at her(keep your minds out of the gutter) I love when they use to have bob on a regular basis. He should be on at least twice a week. Say tuesday thursday, not just when something like the collider are in vogue. It would also help eliminate the lack of critical thought. I have been watching a great number of BBC nature docs and History channel docs about ancient civs, I think if people knew more about history we would have less issues about religion. When the have writting that dates to 5000 BC(glyphs) it throws the whole 6000 year old world out the window. Along with other interesting technologies from the past. Did you know that indoor plumbing has been in use for more than 2500 years. Glasses for seeing have been manufactured since the egyptians as well. It's a fact!
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posted 06 November 2008 12:55 PM      Profile for martin dufresne   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hey, another female-putdown titled thread! I was starting to think something might have changed...
Re this morning's show with Bob Macdonald, I HATE it when male journalists "take a poke" at female journalists on-air. It is self-interested harassment and a staple of Radio-Canada fare, both on radio and TV. On private radio, it is much worse, with predictable ribbing or elation about female co-hosts physical appearance. Shock-radio jock Gilles Proulx once asked a (Black) female co-host if her breasts were real or protheses. When star misogynist Pierre Bourgault was still alive, back in 2001, he wrote in a daily column that he would have punched radio host Christiane Charette if she had dared allude to his age as she was said to have done when she asked then-Premier Bernard Landry about his grand-children before a crucial election at the helm of the Parti québécois. Male broadcasters "blowing up" at female colleagues/underlings is common, though generally done off-air. Proulx also did that to a researcher before he was thankfully retired from Quebec airwaves. Most of the time, the harassment is more subtle. For instance, how often have you heard a male anchor "gently berate" a female weathercaster for announcing less-than-perfect weather?
I think women in the media often giggle because it is unacceptable for them to respond in kind to a male harasser on air. They would be fired immediately.
Males respond differently, e.g. raising their voice or speaking at length when challenged and wanting to restore their alpha male status.
"Ted Baxter" lives, alas.

[ 06 November 2008: Message edited by: martin dufresne ]


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posted 06 November 2008 01:30 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yikes! I missed the part where MacDonald took a poke at Meharchand this morning. I was making coffee and turned away from the TV for a minute. I would never had thought it in his character - I've always liked hearing Bob MacDonald talk about science. I'm sorry to hear he harassed Meharchand.
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I shudder to think what might be bought forth if I mention that I don't particularly like CBC News Sunday with Evan Solomon and Carol MacNeil. I prefer Jeannie Lee's financial reporting to that of Fred Langan's, prefer Nancy Wilson over Suhana Meharchand, yet prefer Meharchand over Harry Forestell. Can it ever be just about delivery styles Martin?
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posted 06 November 2008 01:48 PM      Profile for Toby Fourre        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Slumberjack:
I shudder to think what might be bought forth if I mention that I don't particularly like CBC News Sunday with Evan Solomon and Carol MacNeil.

Interesting that. I like Evan Solomon and I like Carol MacNeil but I don't like them together. Frankly, I don't like the dual anchor setup that CBC uses on news shows. And I don't like the friendly banter that is supposed to make us all comfortable. This stuff detracts from the object which is to present the news.


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posted 06 November 2008 01:52 PM      Profile for Tommy_Paine     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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He should be on at least twice a week. Say tuesday thursday, not just when something like the collider are in vogue. It would also help eliminate the lack of critical thought. I have been watching a great number of BBC nature docs and History channel docs about ancient civs, I think if people knew more about history we would have less issues about religion.

I'm not sure. Discovery chanel does an hour long show every week day, "Daily Planet". Like other news broadcasts, when you take out the old rebroadcasted reports, there's really maybe only a solid twenty minutes, or less of science "news". It's not that there's a shortage of science news everyday. But maybe there's a shortage of science news that producers think will hold an audience.

And yes, there's no shortage of documentaries these days, on the history chanel etc. When there were fewer, those who made them knew they were reaching an interested audience. There are many today that seem to me to be speaking to chanel surfers.

[ 06 November 2008: Message edited by: Tommy_Paine ]


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posted 06 November 2008 04:56 PM      Profile for Papal Bull   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
There are documentaries on the History Channel?

I thought that they cut out that boring shit so that they could have lots of Predator and NCIS.


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posted 06 November 2008 05:39 PM      Profile for Tommy_Paine     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yeah, no kidding eh?

And what about the quality of the documentaries that are shown between these shows? I have to admit, I like the mix of real footage, computer graphics and eye witness accounts in "Battle 360" but the script and narration sounds like it's done by someone who worked for DC Comics in the 50's.

Hoakey isn't the word. It's so cornball, it makes me laugh out loud.

And, I've noticed that many documentaries on both the History chanel and Discovery have become tedious, with much repition after commercial breaks, and excessive padding with cute computer graphics. I've seen two hour documentaries that should have been just an hour-- or less.

Uninterestingly enough, the History chanel got busted by the CRTC for running "CSI" wall to wall. I don't see how "NCIS" doesn't violate the terms of the History chanel mandate.

Nice to be above the law, eh?


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posted 06 November 2008 05:59 PM      Profile for remind     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Did anyone else see the CBC documentary last week, or the week before, about GWB and his wanting Abu Musab al-Zarqawi's head brought to him?

It was quite interesting actually, and put a lot of things into prespective.

Way back when they first thought they had killed him, early in the war, they cut off the man's head, whom they had thought was Abu Musab al-Zarqawi and a guy actually carried the severed head, in a metal box on a military flight and took it to GWB, who had wanted to put it on his mantel.

Kinda puts those other decapitations of westerners into perspective, eh? Retaliation perhaps?

And talk about power drunk whacked out old day emperor shit on the part of GWB. God I hope he is charged with war crimes.


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posted 06 November 2008 08:45 PM      Profile for thorin_bane     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by martin dufresne:
Hey, another female-putdown titled thread! I was starting to think something might have changed...
Re this morning's show with Bob Macdonald, I HATE it when male journalists "take a poke" at female journalists on-air. It is self-interested harassment and a staple of Radio-Canada fare, both on radio and TV. On private radio, it is much worse, with predictable ribbing or elation about female co-hosts physical appearance. Shock-radio jock Gilles Proulx once asked a (Black) female co-host if her breasts were real or protheses. When star misogynist Pierre Bourgault was still alive, back in 2001, he wrote in a daily column that he would have punched radio host Christiane Charette if she had dared allude to his age as she was said to have done when she asked then-Premier Bernard Landry about his grand-children before a crucial election at the helm of the Parti québécois. Male broadcasters "blowing up" at female colleagues/underlings is common, though generally done off-air. Proulx also did that to a researcher before he was thankfully retired from Quebec airwaves. Most of the time, the harassment is more subtle. For instance, how often have you heard a male anchor "gently berate" a female weathercaster for announcing less-than-perfect weather?
I think women in the media often giggle because it is unacceptable for them to respond in kind to a male harasser on air. They would be fired immediately.
Males respond differently, e.g. raising their voice or speaking at length when challenged and wanting to restore their alpha male status.
"Ted Baxter" lives, alas.

[ 06 November 2008: Message edited by: martin dufresne ]


Seriously GIVE IT A REST. Did you notice I like Andrea Ratuski is that because I am against Rex Murphy? Your more womanly than thou shit is grating even for some of the females on this board. Nothing I said was sexist. It was an observation. Same as the Olbermann thread. I could have said michelle was an anti-semite for not liking his delivery as much as you calling me a misogynist. Cleary michelle isn't anti-semetic and neither am I a woman hater you git. I like wendy mesly far more than pete mansbridge does that mean I hate bald men?

BTW she said he took a poke, I didn't see it. I think she made a science assumption that he GIGGLED at. I think she took the GIGGLE as a poke.

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posted 06 November 2008 08:57 PM      Profile for thorin_bane     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Toby Fourre:

Interesting that. I like Evan Solomon and I like Carol MacNeil but I don't like them together. Frankly, I don't like the dual anchor setup that CBC uses on news shows. And I don't like the friendly banter that is supposed to make us all comfortable. This stuff detracts from the object which is to present the news.


Exactly my point. News was serious at one time not so much anymore. Infotainment is the key now.
Like the others pointed out, even docs these days are a lot of filler. I do love those cut-away sectionals though. Guess that is because of those popular science/mechanics I used to read as a kid.
I have been watching engineering an empire from the library(our library has a lot of DVD, right now I am watching 'The Man Who Would Be King') so it covers a little history and a some science.
While I do know that daily planet is on everyday there are a few problems with that.

I don't have cable or dish(anymore) so I can't watch that at all. A lot of people don't put that on but do watch the news. The news is taken as serious, while daily planet is way more about presenting it as fun(lots of fluff little substance back when I use to watch). Which I do like but some don't. So If it was presented on the news it might be viewed as more factual. Course when they have bob on it last all of 5 minutes anyways. It just seams his appearances are getting pretty far apart.


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quote:
Originally posted by thorin_bane:
more than pete mansbridge does that mean I hate bald men?

Yes, and you probably prefer Cherry over MacLean.


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posted 06 November 2008 08:58 PM      Profile for Papal Bull   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by thorin_bane:
more than pete mansbridge does that mean I hate bald men?

Yes, and you probably prefer MacLean over Cherry.

edit:: I am a bad Canadian.

Oh, double post? I will leave that snafu up there for the ages. Hopefully it will be used against me one day...

Either way, Tommy_Paine, if you will, I feel your _Paine. I haven't been able to watch History Channel or Discovery Channel too much recently. As much as I like Frontiers of Construction, I can only watch it 3 times a week for so many years. I like my documentaries really full of boring information and droning, stereotypical narrators. Although I can always enjoy a more interesting approach to narration.

I actively seek out those documentaries that introduce you to a really neat topic, like one on the Hittites. I watched that a few years ago and was struck with a "damn, that was a culture that should have ruled the world" sort of thought. I like those. I admit, they do dramatize and take a little too much liberty, but at least the corniness is well done! The 3D reconstructions of the city were very interesting, as were the costumes. It sort of encourages me to segue into talking about "Engineering an Empire" but that is a whole other topic. I spend entirely too much time watching documentaries, particularly the likes of Future is Wild or Swimming With Sea Monsters.

As for newscasting and such, I used to watch a lot, but the CBC lately has been really grating, particularly when combined with a free subscription to both the Toronto Sun and MacLeans. Sure, the latter has finally been transferred to a few choice subscriptions...the Sun remains. Needless to say, I get enough crappy news coverage. The last thing I want is to turn on CTV or CityTV coverage. I live my life in a blissful void of excessive television news. Although I have a penchant for watching BBC and CBC newsworld when in a pinch for needing some information bombardment.

Oh, and FOX News. I love it for 20 minutes, then turn off the TV. Excellent and entertaining demotivator.

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posted 06 November 2008 09:02 PM      Profile for martin dufresne   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
No need for ad hominems: I have no idea about your personal tastes or habits - and indeed I am very glad you provided that info about Macdonald "getting a poke" at Meharchand.
I made the point that this thread title puts down a woman using a feminine stereotype, as so many thread titles have done. Doesn't it? Are you profoundly committed to it? I doubt it. I mentioned it (as an afterthought edit, actually) - even if, yes, I have a penis - and I took the time to document sexist harassment practices in the media. You probably agree with me that this is uncouth, so quit acting as if I said or thought you are a misoynist. There are enough straw men in this forum these days.
Peace and good night.

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posted 06 November 2008 09:04 PM      Profile for thorin_bane     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Papal Bull:

Yes, and you probably prefer Cherry over MacLean.


Actually being a habs fan, I don't care for either . But I really don't like Cherry as he manages to talk about anything but the habs when asked about them. Except Cary Price. I think the CBC should have cut the wages of those 2 clowns and kept the anthem. They got rid of cuthbert and williams and now the HNIC theme song(I don't like the new one, or may of the other candidates) who all happen to be on TSN now. I like to watch Cuthbert call games when I am at my dads, he sounds very unbiased when calling a game and knows all the players. A very good announcer.


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posted 06 November 2008 09:07 PM      Profile for thorin_bane     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by martin dufresne:
No need for ad hominems: I have no idea about your personal tastes or habits - and indeed I am very glad you provided that info about Macdonald "getting a poke" at Meharchand.
I made the point that this thread title puts down a woman using a feminine stereotype, as so many thread titles have done. Doesn't it? Are you profoundly committed to it? I doubt it. I mentioned it (as an afterthought edit, actually) - even if, yes, I have a penis - and I took the time to document sexist harassment practices in the media. You probably agree with me that this is uncouth, so quit acting as if I said or thought you are a misoynist. There are enough straw men in this forum these days.
Peace and good night.

Thanks, I agree we are all a little touchy these days. Election tension release I guess. I'll change the title if that will help.


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posted 06 November 2008 09:10 PM      Profile for martin dufresne   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks!
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