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Brian White
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posted 02 January 2006 05:22 PM      Profile for Brian White   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
just wondering why they do it?
Why is it ok and fasionable to make snotty comments about her?
Is it because she is a successful french speaking singer?
It is like some schoolkid bully deciding it is ok to pick on someone and everyone joining in because they want to be cool too. So, who started it?
And Neil Young gets a little of the same snotty treatment too. Why?
Why not the guess who or gordon lightfoot?
How do you pick out your random victims for attack?
Just thought I would ask.

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Hephaestion
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posted 02 January 2006 05:27 PM      Profile for Hephaestion   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post
More than anything, it's the dreadful caterwauling. However, the fact that she is sooooooooo full of herself adds a lot to it, as well as her rehearsed "sincerity"... I say we let Vegas keep her.
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mersh
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posted 02 January 2006 05:29 PM      Profile for mersh     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
just wondering how this is a feminist issue -- Neil Young, too...
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skdadl
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posted 02 January 2006 05:29 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Lot of assumptions there, Brian.

It's a funny thing, though, music. Listen to enough of it, long enough, and you start to learn things about music, even if you've never been schooled in it, even if you've never picked up the analytical language that would explain why you've stopped liking some stuff.

I think that's why a lot of people who might have been moved by Celine Dion when they were young and first listening to music outgrew her, perhaps sound "snotty" about her, as you put it, later on.

Dion is an utter sentimentalist who forces her voice. Listen to music long enough and you will want better lyrics and a more subtle voice. What can I say?


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oldgoat
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posted 02 January 2006 05:29 PM      Profile for oldgoat     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Well, at least it ain't a bloody green thread. Don't think it belongs in the feminism forum though.

Might try babble banter. "Please discuss Celine Dion from a pro-Celine Dion point of view."


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skdadl
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posted 02 January 2006 05:30 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Good night! This is in the feminist forum?!?
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mersh
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posted 02 January 2006 05:31 PM      Profile for mersh     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
But what is the Green policy on Celine, anyway?
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posted 02 January 2006 05:33 PM      Profile for pogge   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by mersh:
But what is the Green policy on Celine, anyway?

They're definitely in favour of her. She comes with her own amplifier. Saves on electricity.


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Hephaestion
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posted 02 January 2006 05:33 PM      Profile for Hephaestion   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by oldgoat:

Don't think it belongs in the feminism forum though.


NO kidding!

Might try babble banter. "Please discuss Celine Dion from a pro-Celine Dion point of view."

A PRO-Celine Dion point of view??? Don't think it'd attract many replies that way...

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Andy (Andrew)
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posted 02 January 2006 05:34 PM      Profile for Andy (Andrew)   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I like Celine
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skdadl
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posted 02 January 2006 05:34 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Coming soon to a feminist forum near you:

A Tribute to Elizabeth Taylor

Hilary Weston Has Feelings Too

Athina Onassis: Happy at Last?


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mersh
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posted 02 January 2006 05:36 PM      Profile for mersh     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
And who here picks on Gordon Lightfoot? Neil Young's fair game (Let's Roll!). But wait a minute, still not a feminist issue...
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skdadl
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posted 02 January 2006 05:38 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I'll pick on the Guess Who, if that's needed.
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oldgoat
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posted 02 January 2006 05:40 PM      Profile for oldgoat     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Dibs on Dan Hill.
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skdadl
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posted 02 January 2006 05:41 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Oh, gosh, oldgoat: The honesty's too much.

I'm gonna have to go off and cry now. A lot.


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mersh
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posted 02 January 2006 05:41 PM      Profile for mersh     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Ah, ok, I'm getting it now -- American Woman as anti-war sentiment drawing on sexualized & gendered metaphors. Well-meaning at the time, I s'pose, but those lyrics!
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Hephaestion
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posted 02 January 2006 05:42 PM      Profile for Hephaestion   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by Andy (Andrew):

I like Celine


... but we forgive you, and we love you anyway, Andy.

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mersh
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posted 02 January 2006 05:42 PM      Profile for mersh     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I know my heart will go on.
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skdadl
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posted 02 January 2006 05:48 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Actually, I feel a bit sorry for that snarky line about Elizabeth Taylor.

I saw the Tarragon's first Toronto production of Michel Tremblay's Hosanna, and I will never forget Richard Monette's pronunciation of her name - Eh-leez-ah-bett Tay-lor. Never. That is the greatest performance I have ever seen, bar none.

Here's to Tremblay, and Monette, and to Eh-leez-ah-bett herself. Survival counts.


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skeptikool
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posted 02 January 2006 05:48 PM      Profile for skeptikool        Edit/Delete Post
The reason is, that many did not get the schoolyard out of their systems. Comfort of the mob, the need to gang-up, the need of a victim to elevate one's own ego.

Most annoying, with her talent, and success, she can tell all to: "Stuff it!"


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Hephaestion
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posted 02 January 2006 05:53 PM      Profile for Hephaestion   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post
Yeah, sure, skeptikool. That's it. No, really! You go with that...
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Crippled_Newsie
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posted 02 January 2006 05:55 PM      Profile for Crippled_Newsie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
So, like, we are all totally NOT gonna sit next to Brian, Andy and Skeptic at lunch today, ok?
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Reality. Bites.
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quote:
Originally posted by Tape_342:
So, like, we are all totally NOT gonna sit next to Brian, Andy and Skeptic at lunch today, ok?

They have cooties.


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Maritimesea
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posted 02 January 2006 06:32 PM      Profile for Maritimesea     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by oldgoat:
Dibs on Dan Hill.

quote:
Originally posted by skdadl:
Oh, gosh, oldgoat: The honesty's too much.

I'm gonna have to go off and cry now. A lot.


Actually the song I remember most was Slip Slide and Away, side B on the 45 was Sometimes when we Touch, if I remember correctly. Also I think the 45 was orange, remember the different coloured 45's? Lady's Night by Kool and the Gang was blue.

Oh, and Celine sucks.


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deBeauxOs
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posted 02 January 2006 06:44 PM      Profile for deBeauxOs     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
posted by skdadl: Actually, I feel a bit sorry for that snarky line about Elizabeth Taylor.
Ah, but consider who is the current embodiment of the serial bride ... Jennifer Lopez? And just think, Elizabeth had the courage to take on the role of Martha in "Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf" ...

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anne cameron
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And just What did El-ee-za-bet Tay-lor survive?
Being beautiful? Being amazingly wealthy? Having a voice like a fingernail down a blackboard?

SHIT! Wish I could "survive" that way!!!

oh, right, she had a bad back...
small fekkin wonder!


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solarpower
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posted 02 January 2006 07:21 PM      Profile for solarpower   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I got turned off Celine the first time listening to my neighbours 3 teenage girls singing her songs. Her songs should only be sung by people who have had voice training.
The 2nd time was
my heart will go on, and on, and on, and on, and on...and oh how I wish it would stop.

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Scott Piatkowski
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posted 02 January 2006 07:22 PM      Profile for Scott Piatkowski   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
To borrow from Bruce McCullough...

Q. What is it that you don't like about [her music]?
A. The sound.


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Hephaestion
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posted 02 January 2006 07:26 PM      Profile for Hephaestion   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by Scott Piatkowski:

To borrow from Bruce McCullough...

Q. What is it that you don't like about [her music]?

A. The sound.



Reminds me of Mark Twain's acidic comment, "You know, Wagner is a lot better than he sounds."


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Michelle
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posted 02 January 2006 07:27 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Q. Why is this thread in the feminism forum?

A. It isn't anymore. It's in the culture forum now.


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