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N.Beltov
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posted 07 March 2005 04:09 PM
In the most recent Canadian Medical Association Journal there are a couple of articles that deal with the characteristics of women undergoing repeat induced abortions. The articles are as follows for those who would like to read them for themselves (CMAJ, March 1, 2005; 172 (5)): Characteristics of women undergoing repeat induced abortions, Fisher et al and... “Violence and Abortions: What’s a Doctor to do?” Phillips, Susan P. The first article notes that “a history of physical or sexual abuse was associated with repeat induced abortion. Presentation for repeat abortion may be an important indication to screen for a current or past history of relationship violence and sexual abuse”.
Women, it seems, don’t want to have (additional) children when they themselves, much less their children, are at risk for physical or sexual abuse. “[W]omen often seek abortions as a last resort, when personal circumstances preclude safe and positive parenting”. The second article is very sobering and disturbing. “I would suggest that physicians, particularly those in family practice, emergency medicine and obstetrics and gynecology, screen all women for what could be defined as an epidemic.” “Fisher and colleagues should be applauded for listening to the stories of women requesting abortions. Their careful research identifies an increased level of exposure to violence among women seeking repeat abortions and reminds us of the extent of victimization among our female patients.” These women’s stories are marked “by sadness more than by irresponsibility”. Now doesn’t that just phucking break your heart? And it puts a whole new light on anti-abortionists, doesn't it? [ 07 March 2005: Message edited by: N.Beltov ]
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Anchoress
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posted 08 March 2005 01:23 AM
quote: Originally posted by Loretta: The articles are certainly worth discussing but I read this quote:[QUOTE] These women’s stories are marked “by sadness more than by irresponsibility”. Now doesn’t that just phucking break your heart? [QUOTE] as heavy with sarcasm belittling the difficulty faced by women dealing with an untimely pregnancy.
So it's because of a line in one of the links that you think the original post doesn't comply with the feminist forum rules?
From: Vancouver babblers' meetup July 9 @ Cafe Deux Soleil! | Registered: Nov 2003
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N.Beltov
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posted 08 March 2005 10:21 AM
quote: skdadl: NB altered the spelling of the f-word as a way of softening it.
Yup. Also, I wasn't sure if babble had some automated software that would censor such words automatically (like some other web sites). One of the articles drew attention to the claim, typically made by anti-abortionists, that it is used as a method of contraception by "irresponsible" women. There is evidence from this research to suggest that women that are the victim of violence, either directly or as witnesses to violence against their current children, develop a kind of "demoralization" from all this violence. They "give up" and are more likely to skip the use of their contraceptive and become pregnant. I find it difficult to read such data without getting really angry or really sad or both. And it shames me about my fellow males.
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EFA
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posted 14 July 2005 06:37 PM
Thanks. I've only scanned these but I'm still really curious as to how the researchers came to such a conclusion.Drift ... I respect the pro-lifers who are consistent more than I do the ones who waffle. It seems hypocritical to me to declare that all life is precious but then to add the rider 'except for that created by rape or incest.' I think the pro-lifers are pretty much all nuts, anyway, but I have my doubts about some of the pro-choicers too, in particular: - I don't see a need for third trimester abortions except in the most bizarre of circumstances. - I think we need to acknowlege the emotional harm that abortion causes young women. - I think it's a mistake to shut men out of these decisions. For myself, I don't think life is precious. If it were, the Americans wouldn't have bombed the shit out of Iraq, right? Right?
From: Victoria, BC | Registered: Jun 2005
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