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obscurantist
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posted 25 November 2005 07:48 PM      Profile for obscurantist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Los Angeles Times

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For nearly a century, drinkers in Britain's frosted-glass, red-velvet, gin-palace pubs have known exactly when it was time to go home at the end of a night out. At a quarter to 11, a bell would ring as a barman yelled, "Last orders!" followed 15 minutes later by another bell and the call: "Time please, gentlemen."

After that, there was nothing for drinkers to do but to go home, some urged out on the street with stern admonitions to "drink up, sir."
But as of Thursday, the cry of "Time please, gentlemen!" need not be heard again. Under a new, more liberal Licensing Act, Britain's pubs can stay open as late as they want — with a bit of negotiating with the neighbors.

Britons who know that drinkers across the English Channel can go on sipping red wine until the early hours have been demanding longer pub hours here throughout living memory.

The old legislation was widely mocked as bossily prescriptive for modern times. The complaint has some justification, because the restrictions were originally imposed during World War I to keep the working population steady, on its feet and clocking in at munitions factory jobs.

However, if Prime Minister Tony Blair and Culture Secretary Tessa Jowell thought they were only doing what the voters wanted by giving the public more choice about when to drink, the last few months must have come as a nasty shock. The legislation — which the government said would decrease alcoholism and drunken violence by stopping binge drinking brought on by the 11 p.m. deadline — has instead been sharply criticized. ...


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Cougyr
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posted 25 November 2005 08:14 PM      Profile for Cougyr     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I like the old laws, which appear a bit quaint on the surface. They were written when breweries were small and pubs family owned. Pubs had limited hours because the owners had their own lives to lead, particularly in small towns. Big outfits have been buying up the pubs and turning tham into profit centres, with the stress on maximum profit. The friendly local is becoming a thing of the past.
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Diane Demorney
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posted 25 November 2005 08:17 PM      Profile for Diane Demorney   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Everything I know about British pubs, I learned from "Coronation Street". Having said that, I'm very annoyed at the OP because now I have the theme song from "The Pig and Whistle" TV show from the '60s, early '70s in my head. Thanks a heap.
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posted 25 November 2005 08:41 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I travel over to Cheshire, England on occasion, and their local is called "The Riflemen's Arms". It's a very old pub, rebuilt many times. Lovely place. Every Thursday night is 'Quiz Night' and everyone joins in. I have a copy of the last quiz - about 125 question long. You form teams, and the barkeep asks the questions.
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Diane Demorney
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posted 25 November 2005 08:48 PM      Profile for Diane Demorney   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I also need to add my knowledge of British pubs comes from the wonderful mysteries written by Martha Grimes. I confess to a fantasy crush on Melrose Plant. And I will deny said crush to my dying days.
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aRoused
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posted 25 November 2005 10:22 PM      Profile for aRoused     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
I like the old laws, which appear a bit quaint on the surface. They were written when breweries were small and pubs family owned.

No, they were written to try and keep munitions workers from showing up for work in the morning still drunk from the night before, during WWI.

That being said, the buying up of pubs by management companies sucks ass, no question there.

It's day two now, no major madness in Her Majesty's Royal Burgh of Eoforwich yet. At least, nothing beyond the usual madness that obtains every weekend. Edit: I should be on the record saying that I think broader opening hours are a good idea, the aggression involved in pushing people out the door sharply at 11:20PM as mandated by law gets my pacifist back up, nevermind some shaven-headed white-shirt-wearing brute in town for a qwick point anna foight aftrwrds. This'll spread the drunks out over a wider space of time and not put them on the street angry 'cause they've had to abandon their final pint of Stella.

Curiously, the majority of 24-hour licenses sought have been from SUPERMARKETS, who want to be open to sell liquor for as long as possible. Do you think they've got a big markup on drinkeepoo's?

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posted 26 November 2005 01:13 AM      Profile for Ghost of the Navigator        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
11? Jesus, even the Christian Coalition would have found that extreme.
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