Mass hysteria over the RR death is seen on TV when an Hispanic women, crying or sobbing said he was just a nice man. Well. RR was unique in that he showed and had no anger. A rare personality trait. I would call him a good President. Democrates call him worse. His Director of Communications was Pat Buchanan. Enough

My list of great Presidents would be short and would include: Ford,Eisenhower, T. Rosevelt and the first 5 men. No Lincoln, nor JFK or FDR.

I have read many Lincoln Bios. First, Abe was a depressed man. Books say so and they tell us it was over the guilt of the War. Not so. Lincoln was born Depressed and got much worse after the Death of one son. He was so grived over his son that he dug him up 4 times to hold him.

Lincoln fired the first 2 Sec of War. Both were slow in action, so Lincoln said. He then found a lesser ranked man in the Army who was out west killing Indians. He found his man.

Half a million men died.I don't think most know how that war was fought. And for what?
Free the slaves, nonsense.Blacks here are still not free. Lincoln was very much like Stalin. If you fight, you kill as many and as quickly as you can. Lincoln had a poorer Army at first and was always looking at the Western flank which could go all slave and fight. These men had guns and could fight.

JFK 100 days should him the victum of psychogenic pain. He was mistreated by his physicians and made worse.Chronic pain is treated by the pt with drugs, and sex. Both last a short time.

The story of FDR is too long now for me to print. G. Ford, on the other hand, took a country that was fractured as badly as the Civil War. I meet him. He was strong and commanded respect. All of sudden watergate ended and the economy was limped back to health.

Many Prersidents have been good. Think of your country, how many PM's or Prez would you call great?

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Lincoln was very much like Stalin.

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That's a rather odd comparison. To say the least. Gerald Ford? He was one of the most inconsequential presidents in history. There is no comparison between the country after the civil war and after Watergate. The country, as a whole, was simply relieved that the corrupt and venal Nixon quit.

"Not only our future economic soundness but the very soundness of our democratic institutions depends on the determination of our government to give employment to idle men." - FDR

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The reason Reagan's death is getting so much attention is that he's the first modern president that hard core right has had to admire, the proliferation of news stations, and because in death he's a useful tool for Bush and the rest of the right-wing.

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Lincoln was not a nice man. His troups of the ZNorth were factory workers, and anyone else he could get. It was not Sherman who burned Atlanta, it was Lincoln.

I think one must look beyond the sterotype and high school misseducation.

In number of Dead, and ways of death. In manner or battles, Lincoln and Stalin fit. Stalin was not a great man either. He went to the western front only one time in his train, took a look and ordered the train back to Moscow. What Stalin did at the start of the German campain was criminal.

There is no offical list of best from Google and if there were it is one persons point of view. Ones own political orientation will make this desicion for youself by Projection. A poor way to express oneself.

To miss Ford's role is understandable, espiciallly with you are Liberal. Hell discount T Roosevelt and Eisenhower also. T Rooveselt had a most interesting life.

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More hatred was directed his way after the Pardon.

He picked up this country, was a rational president.

All one need to know on any list is you political orientation.

I am Libertartion in philosophy.

If you are a democrate in the USA, You like FDR, Carter, Clinton yada. Hell no one thinks for themselves. My father would vote for Mickey Mouse if he were a Demo.

Pardon spelling.

I have been interested in the History of Mental Illness among past world leaders. History has been turned by some of these guys.

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RR may have faked us all out. Dump on him and he would joke. His staff was the pits and he was not a Libertation. His church which he believed was the Disciples of Christ who like the Assembly of God and Mormons believe God had a hand in founding America.

Deseret news in SLC says at the top, we believe the Constitution to be divenly inspired. Hell, it was ripped off from France. The Divine nature was the concept of Federalism which no longer exists.

Who would you call a great Canadian leader.

Jokster here. I will smoke to that.

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Deseret news in SLC says at the top, we believe the Constitution to be divenly inspired. Hell, it was ripped off from France.

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Gerald Ford? He was one of the most inconsequential presidents in history.

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Yeah josh, but you say that as though it were a negative thing.

I have a strange theory. Half the population of any country has an IQ of 100 or less. That's how IQ tests are developed.

These people need someone to relate to--which Presidents want to--and have chosen over and over again their stupidity. Look at Stevenson.

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BTW Ford was an all American football play at Michigan

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Yeah, but he was a centre and, back in the day, you didn't use a helmet. Besides it's Michigan. Roll tide roll.

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That Hispanic lady crying didn't know RR could have cared less about her

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Jlo?

To answer the origional question I think Lincoln was the best, followed by FDR.

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Yeah, but he was a centre and, back in the day, you didn't use a helmet.

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I think it was Lyndon B. Johnson who made the famous crack about Ford having played too much without a helmet.

Read a bio on Lincoln and see how many people died. South Carolina had left the Union under Lincolns prior prez. He did not declare War on South Carlonia.

FDR was a Likable fellow who that let all Jews die and was too sick to hold a pencil with Stalin.

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I have a strange theory. Half the population of any country has an IQ of 100 or less.

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When I try to talk about this concept, people yawn or sleep. The Normal cure rules most of life.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/dilorenzo/dilorenzo14.html

"Honest Abe" Lincoln for the abolishment of slavery

Carter for his position on Marijuana decriminalization and his stand for civil rights in general

Reagan... (I'll dispense with praising him, as I have nothing to add to what has been brodcast and rebrodcast in the media all day)

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William Henry Harrison.

Died four months after inaugeration. Now that's leadership.

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