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Agent 204
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posted 03 July 2008 10:08 AM      Profile for Agent 204   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Will they be issuing brown triangles next?
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Italian authorities have started fingerprinting tens of thousands of Gypsies living in nomad camps across the country — adults and children alike — brushing aside accusations of racism by human rights advocates and international organizations.

Interior Minister Roberto Maroni told parliament this week the move was needed to fight crime and identify illegal immigrants for expulsion, but also to improve the lives of those legally living in the makeshift, often unsanitary camps.

“We intend to make a census to see who lives in Gypsy camps, who has a right to stay and to live in humane conditions. Those who don't have a right to stay will be repatriated,” he said.

More than 700 encampments have been built, mainly around Rome, Milan and Naples, populated almost entirely by Gypsies, also known as Roma.


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Fleabitn
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posted 03 July 2008 10:55 AM      Profile for Fleabitn     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
"who has a right to stay and to live in humane conditions"

This would seem to be a central question of our time. The answer is increasingly "only the rich."


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lagatta
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posted 03 July 2008 01:18 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The most in-depth article I've seen in English (and the most comprehensive in any language) about this horror was in the Independent. I don't know how long Independent articles are available - they used to disappear behind the subscription wall quickly - the policy has changed but you might want to copy this if you are interested as reference:

Plight of the Roma: Echoes of Mussolini

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And what of Italy's Roma during the grim final years of Mussolini's rule? Some 1.6 million Roma died in Germany and elsewhere during the Holocaust, a proportionately greater genocide than that suffered by the Jews.

The history of their treatment under Mussolini is a subject that contemporary Italian historians have been loath to look into, according to Marco Nieli, president of the Italian Roma organisation Opera Nomadi.

"It's a fact that there were concentration camps for Roma in Italy during the Fascist period, and it's also a fact that thousands of Roma died in them of hunger, cold and over work," he claimed. "Studies are now under way to discover the extent of the suffering that took place."



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Agent 204
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posted 03 July 2008 01:59 PM      Profile for Agent 204   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Did anyone notice the character of many of the comments on the Globe story? Like, comparing Roma to cockroaches, etc? Somehow I suspect that if someone posted similar comments about other Holocaust victims, those comments would be removed forthwith.
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