[ 24 November 2005: Message edited by: Centrist ]

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Originally posted by Clog-boy:
"Ich bin ein Berliner!'

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Originally posted by Clog-boy:
"Ich bin ein Berliner!'
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You may be the first jelly doughnut to post to Babble!

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"Jelly doughnut" urban legend
A common urban legend falsely asserts that Kennedy made an embarrassing grammatical error by saying "Ich bin ein Berliner," referring to himself not as a citizen of Berlin, but as a common pastry.

Berliner is the name given to doughnuts filled with plum sauce or jam in most of Germany, though not in Berlin or the surrounding region, where they are known as Pfannkuchen. According to the legend, Kennedy should have said "Ich bin Berliner" to mean "I am a Berliner (person from Berlin)". By adding the indefinite article ein, it is claimed, his statement implied he was a non-human Berliner, thus "I am a jelly doughnut." In the legend, the statement was followed by uproarious laughter.

In German, statements of origin or profession may be made without an article, thus "Ich bin Arzt"(usual) or "Ich bin Brandenburger"(unusual)(I am a doctor; I am from Brandenburg). However, "Ich bin ein Arzt"(unusual) or "Ich bin ein Brandenburger"(usual) is also possible and not a mistake. If you add the article "ein" it will be a form of emphasis: it implies "just one of many." In Germany it sounds weird if you say "Ich bin Berliner". It is indeed the case that, if you ask a "Berliner" from which town he is, he would reply "Ich bin ein Berliner". German linguist Jürgen Eichhoff insists that Kennedy's phrasing was "not only correct, but the one and only correct way of expressing in German what the President intended to say."[1] When speaking, Kennedy did indeed stress the ein.

During the speech, Kennedy used the phrase twice. After he said it the first time, he was applauded, and added jokingly, "I appreciate my interpreter translating my German!" This statement was followed by laughter and applause. He also used the phrase to end his speech.

The urban legend apparently arose in Florida in the 1980s, culminating in an article repeating it in The New York Times in 1988. Although it has no basis in fact, the legend has since been repeated by other reputable media outlets, such as the BBC, and in books about Germany written by English-speaking authors.

However, the legend is unknown in Germany, where Kennedy's speech is considered a landmark in German postwar history. Common souvenirs in Berlin depicting a doughnut covered with the inscription "Ich bin ein Berliner," which are often thought by American tourists to refer to this legend, represent little more than a play on words.

Furthermore, the speech had been prepared by journalist Robert Lochner, who was educated in Germany, and had been practiced several times in front of numerous Germans, including Berlin Mayor Willy Brandt. The many video and audio recordings of the event show only enthusiastic applause following the statement.

Kennedy did, however, pronounce the sentence with a strong Boston accent, reading from his note "ish bin ein Bearleener," which he had written out phonetically.

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And you can indeed also buy them here in the Netherlands, where they're called "Berliner Bollen" (rough transl.: Berliner Balls/Spheres)

Occasionally, a couple of my colleagues, who live near the German border, take some of them to work (after picking them up, fresh baked from a German bakery, which still make the best B.B.'s!)
I'm always very grateful

(Speaking of derailing: From army affairs to pastry...)

[ 24 November 2005: Message edited by: Clog-boy ]

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Originally posted by skdadl:
I wonder what that celebration was. In theory, there shouldn't be any problem with a torchlight parade -- maybe there was a good reason? Rededication of the Reichstag or something like that? It is striking ...

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But they make those in the Netherlands as well - I've seen people eating them on the streets in Amdam. Are they called Berliners in Dutch? Seems to me they are doughnuts - they are certainly fried sweets.

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Nevertheless, mighty cool they sell Oliebollen in Canada!

[ 25 November 2005: Message edited by: Clog-boy ]