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judym
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posted 05 February 2002 05:30 PM      Profile for judym   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
If earth's population was made up of 100 people, this is what it would look like.

Armine Yalnizyan calls this a "gorgeous and humbling version of reality."


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dee
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posted 05 February 2002 05:49 PM      Profile for dee     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Beautiful judym, thanks.
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judym
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posted 05 February 2002 06:30 PM      Profile for judym   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You are most welcome, dee. I thought it was very moving.
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DrConway
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posted 05 February 2002 09:42 PM      Profile for DrConway     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I like, I like.

I've seen similar statistics before, but never presented in quite that way.


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Dennis J.
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posted 05 February 2002 10:50 PM      Profile for Dennis J.   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This makes me feel all alone in the world. I am a rock! I am an i-i-i-i-island!
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nonsuch
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posted 08 February 2002 01:09 AM      Profile for nonsuch     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Beautiful. True. Relevant. Affecting.
Mostly beautiful - thanks.

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beproud2
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posted 05 March 2002 01:40 PM      Profile for beproud2        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
great piece! Makes you realize how fortunate we all are. Altho many things are realvent it kinda makes you think next time you compain about something.
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skadie
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posted 05 March 2002 02:15 PM      Profile for skadie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This is what I try to tell everyone I know, but they usually don't believe it. It's amazing that for such an educated country we are so ignorant. I avoided getting a computer because I think it makes people think they are really connected to the world. I think the numbers say exactly the opposite.

Thanks Judym. I will forward it to my friends. Maybe the internet CAN open peoples eyes.


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Victor Von Mediaboy
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posted 06 March 2002 01:58 PM      Profile for Victor Von Mediaboy   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
A rebuttal: http://www.snopes2.com/science/stats/populate.htm
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'lance
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posted 06 March 2002 02:04 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Not exactly a rebuttal, but a re-examination and correction of the original. The Mikkelsons have a well-deserved reputation for getting their facts right.
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AnotherBadSalmon
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posted 06 March 2002 02:25 PM      Profile for AnotherBadSalmon   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
A rebuttal: http://www.snopes2.com/science/stats/populate.htm

A rebuttal or a quibble? When you have much to lose turn to accounting and statistics to give you time to think or lead your opponent away from the issues raised.


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'lance
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posted 06 March 2002 03:01 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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When you have much to lose turn to accounting and statistics to give you time to think or lead your opponent away from the issues raised.

Waittaminute. I've been following what David and Barbara Mikkelson have been doing for years, either via alt.folklore.urban, or the snopes site. I hardly think they qualify as defenders of the status quo, trying to distract their "opponents." They're simply opponents of sloppy research and the accompanying sloppy thinking.

Besides, why is the use of figures dismissable as "accounting and statistics" when they do it, and not when the original author did it?


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'topherscompy
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posted 06 March 2002 03:02 PM      Profile for 'topherscompy        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 

[ 02 May 2006: Message edited by: 'topherscompy ]


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'lance
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posted 06 March 2002 03:10 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Right, I just looked at it again. Seems like the snopes site was "debunking" an older version.
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Briguy
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posted 06 March 2002 03:48 PM      Profile for Briguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Could we double the number to 200 so's we can have one crazy canuck in the mix? Then again, I suppose there are enough dual-citizen Canadian-Americans that one of them could represent us (as long as it's not Brett Hull).


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'lance
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posted 06 March 2002 03:49 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Gretsky must have American citizenship by now, yes? I thought his whining about "anti-Canadian" hockey players was a bit embarrassing, but all's forgiven now.
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AnotherBadSalmon
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posted 06 March 2002 03:50 PM      Profile for AnotherBadSalmon   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
QUOTE] Besides, why is the use of figures dismissable as "accounting and statistics" when they do it, and not when the original author did it? [/QUOTE]

I respect the snopes site too lance.

If the Miniature Earth site had been a sheet of paper with the typed information on it then I would not have even gone to the snopes site to check the dates of the stats.

The Miniature Earth had an impact on me that went beyond the numbers to a feeling of how privileged I am. The numbers may change of course but the message that cuts through to me is 'we are privileged and it may not last much longer'. Would love to see another work by them dealing with coming the Environmental crunch.


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'lance
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posted 06 March 2002 03:51 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
The Miniature Earth had an impact on me that went beyond the numbers to a feeling of how privileged I am. The numbers may change of course but the message that cuts through to me is 'we are privileged and it may not last much longer'.

I agree whole-heartedly.


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SHH
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posted 06 March 2002 04:06 PM      Profile for SHH     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
A quote I picked up somewhere recently:

quote:
The American middle class lives in a lovely world. It’s characterized by material ease, high culture, tolerance, politeness, generosity, and fairness. But its fortunate inhabitants lack a crucial piece of wisdom, which is that that their world is as artificial as a moon landing.

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