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unionist
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posted 06 March 2008 06:23 AM      Profile for unionist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Continued from here.

Just as a followup, the federal Privacy Commissioner has just ruled that she has no jurisdiction to deal with political parties' collection and use of private information:

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The federal Privacy Commissioner has quietly dropped her investigation into complaints that Prime Minister Stephen Harper mailed unsolicited Rosh Hashanah greetings, saying she has no jurisdiction over the matter because political parties fall outside Canada's two privacy laws.

But Jennifer Stoddart says she's launching a broader examination of the way parties handle personal data and plans to make recommendations for reforms to the Privacy Act.



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josh
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posted 10 September 2008 05:17 AM      Profile for josh     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
It's back!

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Toronto lawyer Ben Arkin, 30, belongs to no synagogue, no Jewish community group. He does not hold a gym membership in his Annex neighbourhood's popular Miles Nadal Jewish Community Centre.

He has no subscriptions to Jewish publications. He's not on the customer list of any Jewish retailer. His only connection with a Jewish charity is an $18 donation he gave three years ago for a friend's deceased grandmother's in memoriam fund.

On the 2006 short census form he filled out, he wasn't asked his ethnic heritage or religion. He doesn't belong to a political party. He can't recall ever having contacted an elected politician. He lives in a constituency where both the provincial and federal incumbents are New Democrats.

Yet Mr. Arkin is gripped by a mystery: This week, a Rosh Hashanah card came to him in the mail, signed by Conservative Leader Stephen Harper, his wife Laureen and their children Benjamin and Rachel.


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montrealer
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posted 10 September 2008 10:23 AM      Profile for montrealer     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I imagine that other lawyers might perhaps have informed the Harpies of Mr. Arkin's presumed religion ...
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unionist
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posted 10 September 2008 10:35 AM      Profile for unionist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by josh:
Yet Mr. Arkin is gripped by a mystery: This week, a Rosh Hashanah card came to him in the mail, signed by Conservative Leader Stephen Harper, his wife Laureen and their children Benjamin and Rachel.

What big mystery? Rosh Hashanah is coming, and the Harpers are happy. Especially "Benjamin" and "Rachel"...

Hmmm... hey, wait just one minute!!


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Michelle
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posted 10 September 2008 01:13 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
How come Christians across the country don't get Easter cards from Stephen Harper? That's what I want to know.

I like the kind with Easter bunnies on them, Mr. Harper.


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Sean in Ottawa
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posted 10 September 2008 01:15 PM      Profile for Sean in Ottawa     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Oh well, if I got a card from Harper, it would go in the same place I put those cards I get from Bell asking me "to come back to Bell"...
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Michelle
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posted 10 September 2008 01:18 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Creepy:

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Ryan Sparrow, a spokesman for the Conservatives, said the party compiles its list of Jews from ordinary people in the community who suggest that Mr. or Ms. X "might like a card from the Prime Minister." He denied the party uses any prepared lists. He said he was unable to provide a number for how many cards were sent out. The envelopes do not carry a parliamentary frank - or publicly paid-for postage mark.

This suggests the Conservatives are using what is known as the FRAN approach - an acronym for Friends, Relatives, Acquaintances and Neighbours. What it means is that the Conservatives assemble groups of supporters who know lots of people in their constituencies and helpful bits of biographical data that they pass on to the party.


Geez. That's just what you want, the neighbourhood Stasi gathering lists of Jews to give to Harper.


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Jingles
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posted 10 September 2008 02:44 PM      Profile for Jingles     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I bet he wanted to send Christmas cards.
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Politics101
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posted 10 September 2008 04:13 PM      Profile for Politics101   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post
Do unions share their lists with the NDP - I ask this because years ago I would get regular NDP party mailings but I have never brought an NDP membership although I have voted for them but did at the time belong to a labour union - after I moved into a supervisors role and out of the union the mailings ceased.
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Max Bialystock
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posted 11 September 2008 05:06 PM      Profile for Max Bialystock     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Can't Bernie Farber even be mildly critical of Harper? Just once? Oh no, of course the CJC approves of this. What an idiot.

This will be on the next SAT:

FARBER : HARPER
as
LIEBERMAN : McCAIN

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ohara
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posted 11 September 2008 06:48 PM      Profile for ohara        Edit/Delete Post
Im still trying to figure this one out. Liberals send Rosh hashana cards, NDP send Rosh Hashana Cards but when Harper sends them he gets criticized. Heaven knows there may be much to criticize harper on but this?
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Lord Palmerston
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posted 11 September 2008 07:06 PM      Profile for Lord Palmerston     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Funny I live in Trinity-Spadina and I've never heard of anyone getting Rosh Hashanah cards from the NDP.
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ohara
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posted 12 September 2008 03:40 AM      Profile for ohara        Edit/Delete Post
I know a few who got such cards when Bob Rae was Premier. He was an NDP Premier, no?
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Stargazer
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posted 12 September 2008 06:17 AM      Profile for Stargazer     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Bob Rae raised his kids Jewish. Bob Rae is not Stephen Harper - nice try though ohara.


You know a few huh? How about some proof?


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aka Mycroft
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posted 12 September 2008 08:02 AM      Profile for aka Mycroft     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by ohara:
I know a few who got such cards when Bob Rae was Premier. He was an NDP Premier, no?

No.

But even if he was, were the few you know who got cards people who were actively involved in Jewish community groups that interact with the government? That's a bit different from anonymous people getting cards out of the blue because of ethno-religious profiling by the governing party.

Anyway ohara, I would think you'd be a bit more sensitive about the optics of this. My parents grew up in a fascist, anti-semitic country and their attitude as a result was that being Jewish was a private matter that you should keep concealed from the neighbours. I know a lot of Jews who survived the Holocaust had similar attitudes. Getting a card from the government out of the blue that essentially says "we found out you're Jewish and have added your name to a list of known Jews" is bound to make some people very uncomfortable and the fact that the Harperites are completely insensitive to that is appalling. Certainly you can see that?

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posted 12 September 2008 08:06 AM      Profile for bigcitygal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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ohara: Bob Rae ... was an NDP Premier, no?

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aka Mycroft: No.

P.S. Where's my Lunar New Year card?


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Max Bialystock
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posted 12 September 2008 09:39 AM      Profile for Max Bialystock     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by aka Mycroft:
Getting a card from the government out of the blue that essentially says "we found out you're Jewish and have added your name to a list of known Jews" is bound to make some people very uncomfortable and the fact that the Harperites are completely insensitive to that is appalling. Certainly you can see that?

No he can't. ohara takes his cues from the CJC. Farber will never ever say a critical word about Harper. Does Farber totally believe this stuff, or are wealthy Tories now calling the shots at the CJC?

Anyway I'm not surprised the CJC hasn't receieved too many complaints. Who would trust them if they haven't jumped on the neocon bandwagon?


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