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Michelle
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posted 31 May 2006 03:59 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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There is a popular chant among Israeli and Palestinian protesters against the Israeli government's continuing occupation of Palestinian territory in the Middle East. They say, "First of all the wall must fall." They are referring to the "apartheid" or "separation" wall that Israel is building in the occupied Palestinian West Bank. On July 9, 2004, the International Court of Justice (ICJ), determined that the wall is illegal and that Israel must dismantle it. CUPE BC shares the concerns of the protesters, the ICJ and others who oppose the escalation of retaliatory violence.

CUPE


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cdnviking
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posted 31 May 2006 06:37 AM      Profile for cdnviking        Edit/Delete Post
I agree. The wall is illegal and so are the "settlements" the wall is designed to "protect".

ALL settlements AND the ENTIRE wall MUST come down. Boycotts and SANCTIONS must be directed at Israel, in the same way South Africa was, or there will be NO resolution to this ILLEGAL issue.


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evernon
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posted 31 May 2006 12:16 PM      Profile for evernon     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
What a great idea...oh yes one major problem, suicide bombers. That was why the seperation barrier went up in the first place and it seems to be doing a relatively good job in saving lives. But I guess lives dont count much.
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posted 31 May 2006 12:19 PM      Profile for Papal Bull   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
You know, as deplorable as the Palestinian tactics have been that wall is causing a derisive problem rather than fixing it. It's like putting a rock into a wound that needs stitches. The simple fact of the matter is that the wall is harming the Palestinian people and by proxy harming the Israeli state because it is angering and disgracing some of its inhabitants.

I may be a full-hearted supporter of the existence of the Israeli state, but what is going on right now is absolutely morally wrong.


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evernon
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posted 31 May 2006 12:34 PM      Profile for evernon     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
So how does one save lives? For mr lives take precedent. Once Hamas is willing to reject terror sit down and talk I will support your position.
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Papal Bull
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posted 31 May 2006 12:36 PM      Profile for Papal Bull   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Um, they pretty much have. People are just sitting there thinking "HAMAS! They be them darned terrorists!" while Hamas, as a political body, is saying "We'll accept you if the world decides to stop being jerks and stops starving our people".
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Cueball
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posted 31 May 2006 05:13 PM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Canadian Union Takes Important Step against Israeli Apartheid

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At the annual convention of the Canadian Union of Public Employees (CUPE) Ontario, held 24-27 May 2006 in Ottawa, the union passed a resolution of historic importance. Resolution 50 -- adopted unanimously by the 900 delegates at the largest convention in the union's history -- expressed support for the global campaign against Israeli apartheid. The union stated that it would educate its members on the apartheid nature of the Israeli state and Canadian political and economic support for these practices. It also declared that CUPE Ontario would participate in the international campaign of boycott, divestment, and sanctions against Israel until the realization of Palestinian self-determination. Most importantly, the union highlighted the significance of the right of return of Palestinian refugees as a critical component of Palestinian self-determination.

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abnormal
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posted 31 May 2006 05:29 PM      Profile for abnormal   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
From the article linked by cueball:
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27 May 2006: CUPE Ontario declares that it will "Support the international campaign of boycott, divestment and sanctions until Israel meets its obligation to recognize the Palestinian people's inalienable right to self-determination and fully complies with the precepts of international law including the right of Palestinian refugees to return to their homes and properties as stipulated in UN resolution 194."

I also found this:

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Sid Ryan, the Canadian Union of Public Employees Ontario president, said 896 members voted unanimously at its convention in Ottawa on Saturday to support the campaign.
(emphasis added)

Interesting - is there anything symbolic about the fact that CUPE held it's vote on the Sabbath.

[ 31 May 2006: Message edited by: abnormal ]


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Cueball
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posted 31 May 2006 05:45 PM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Yes, well I am pretty sure they were trying to organize it so that observant Jews could not attend.

Let me try it this way: CUPE is a union of people who work for a living. Most of the people in the union who would make up the delgates would also in fact have jobs. It is common practice in the west for most people to work from Monday through Friday, leaving Saturday and Sunday as the days when most Union Workers could attend.

Perhaps they should have held the meeting on Monday so as only the Union paid staff could attend or Sunday so that observant Christians could not attend.


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N.Beltov
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posted 31 May 2006 05:53 PM      Profile for N.Beltov   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
From the story: "There is a lot of pressure being waged, and certainly going to be waged, against the CUPE resolution from conservative forces in the media, in government, and even the labor movement. Please send a note of support to the Ontario head of CUPE, Sid Ryan, at [email protected] Alternatively send support through the CUPE Ontario fax number at: (416) 299-3480 or through the website at www.cupe.on.ca"

[email protected]

CUPE Ontario


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Cueball
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posted 01 June 2006 12:07 AM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Another interesting article on this breakthrough development in mainstream Canadian politics.
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Michelle
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posted 01 June 2006 03:44 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
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Originally posted by Cueball:
Another interesting article on this breakthrough development in mainstream Canadian politics.

You know, you're right. I started the thread here in the international news forum because I figured it would just become a generic thread about the apartheid wall, and that the CUPE article would just be the conversation starter and one of many sources cited. But I can see now that this is going to be a contraversial story in and of itself, that CUPE has taken this stand. So, I think I'll move this to the Canadian Politics forum. Sorry for the confusion.


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