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lagatta
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posted 18 August 2003 06:10 AM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
In the Globe today, a visit to Dieppe. I was there years ago with a friend who was in the Resistance in Normandy, and is still alive but very elderly now. As the article says, Dieppe is a peaceful, prosperous little town very unlike the experience of the many young Canadians who died there. http://makeashorterlink.com/?R28F35E95
Have any other babblers been to Dieppe? Or other haunting sites that stick in your mind? I recall a babbler returned from Oradour-sur-Glane, another was at Vimy Ridge.

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posted 18 August 2003 08:14 AM      Profile for Willowdale Wizard   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
not WWII and dieppe but WWI: in 1998, i was in belgium and i took a day-long bus tour of war sites and cemetaries near bruges ... the frontline during WWI, ypres and passchendale. i couldn't help thinking about canadians in the front line of the use of poison gas, lungs liquefying.
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al-Qa'bong
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posted 18 August 2003 01:58 PM      Profile for al-Qa'bong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Oradour-sur-Glane was haunting, as it should be. That's why it has been preserved. Does anyone know if Lidice has been similarly preserved?

The Maquis de Saffré, in Brittany, is another quiet place full of ghosts. The Nazis and French Milice attacked this Resistance hideout just after D-Day. Some prisoners taken in the raid were later shot.

The Abbaye Ardenne, Kurt Meyer's HQ on the outskirts of Caen, where many young Canadians were shot by Hitler Jugend troops, is worth visiting. It's private property, and you can't walk around the grounds much, but you get a sense of what the battle of Normandy must have been like.

Pointe du Hoc, on the edge of Omaha Beach is more interesting than haunting. From seeing the scorched ceiling of the observation bunker on the cliff, to walking into the huge bomb craters just inland, one wonders how anyone could survive such a bombardment.

The Church at Ste. Mère Eglise has a dummy in a parachute hanging from the bell-tower. In one sense it's kind of cool, in another, it's just plain tacky.

St. Nazaire is a bit low-key. It is, after all, a very busy port and shipyard. I didn't notice any memorials to the British commados who took part in the raid there. The U-boat pens were squat, grey ugly things when I visited three years ago. They have apparently been converted to boutiques now. The U-boat pens at la Pallice, outside of la Rochelle, where some scenes from "Das Boot" were filmed, look like an abandoned naval junkyard.

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lagatta
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posted 18 August 2003 02:19 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I checked out Lidice this morning and indeed, the former village is now a Czech national park and memorial. Here is a site in English: http://www.lidice-memorial.cz/index_uk.htm - the site is also available in Czech and German.

I was at a memorial in the town of Gubbio, in Umbria, near Perugia and Assisi, where there was also a massacre of villagers as a reprisal, and to the Fosse Ardeatine in Rome.


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