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robbie_dee
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posted 02 March 2005 06:29 PM      Profile for robbie_dee     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I actually posted this on another thread, but since it is kind of a technical legal question I thought I would re-post it separately.

Does anyone know what is the impact of the Supreme Court's year-old I.A.T.S.E., Stage Local 56 v. Société de la Place des Arts de Montréal decision on Walmart's ability to close stores (even profitable ones) to thwart a union organizing drive? Here's a snippet of the synopsis by Lancaster House (linked above):

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Justice Gonthier ruled, as an employer, the Place des Arts had the right to go out of business either in whole or in part. He cited with approval the following statement of Judge Marc Lesage in City Buick Pontiac (Montréal) Inc. v. Roy, [1981] T.T. 22 (L.C.): "If an employer, for whatever reason, decides as a result to actually close up shop, the dismissals which follow are the result of ceasing operations, which is a valid economic reason not to hire personnel, even if the cessation is based on socially reprehensible considerations." Gonthier rejected the union's submission that the Place des Arts did not shut down its technical services in a genuine and bona fide manner. Even if the employer's reasons had been to thwart the union, Gonthier held, this was allowed provided that the employer "carried out the decision genuinely and did not merely engage in an elaborate sham to break the employees' strike."
What's the difference between a "genuine" decision to thwart the union and an "elaborate sham" to, um,... still "thwart the union?"

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Blue Collar
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posted 02 March 2005 06:43 PM      Profile for Blue Collar     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
A genuine effort would be to close the store and keep it closed in that town, a sham would be to threaten closure and then remove it after the employees decertify the union or close the store and reopen across the street.

Hey if they have no problem throwing people out on the street rather than pay decent wages and the government can not stop them then I say walmart offices and exec homes are open for some creative redesigns.


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robbie_dee
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posted 03 March 2005 12:05 PM      Profile for robbie_dee     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The problem in the case of Walmart is that they have so many stores they may be willing to sacrifice one in order to intimidate workers at the others. And the way I read the court case above, a union would have no legal remedy for this kind of union-busting.
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posted 03 March 2005 12:19 PM      Profile for Blue Collar     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
If they have to shut down every walmart store in Canada to avoid a union then let them, someone will fill the void they leave whether zellers expands or loblaws either way people will be paid fair wages.

Walmart if they are not willing to pay people fairly then they do not deserve to do business. But when they do shut down they should not expect to get to move their merchindise without hassle.


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James
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posted 03 March 2005 12:48 PM      Profile for James        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The definition of "lock out" in the Ontario Labour Relations Act seems much broader than that of the Quebec Labour Code, so that could be of some help.

[ 03 March 2005: Message edited by: James ]


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