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wonderboy19
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posted 06 April 2006 12:58 AM
I'd like to share this essay and ask the question, is porn political? What place does it have, if any?PORN by Max Gordon Sapience Magazine April 2006 Porn is in my life again. Sometimes when I look at porn, I can’t stop. I walk away eventually – but usually hours, or most of an entire day, have gone by. On occasion, I’ve forgotten what time or what day of the week it was, missed appointments or gone to bed at dawn because of porn. I always tell myself that I’m only going to watch it for a few minutes - as I’m leaving for work, after I finish dinner, right before bed. Three hours later, four or five or six hours later, I’m still sitting there, staring at the screen, wondering where the time went. I’ve lost years like that. I’d had several months away from porn this last time. Then I just got up one morning last week, walked over to the computer and went to a porn site. I was disappointed in myself for failing yet again, but I felt excited too. I’d missed my porn. When I downloaded the first image and felt the familiar rush, the release of tension. It’s like I hadn’t been away at all. article continues at http://www.pornatsapience.blogspot.com [ 06 April 2006: Message edited by: wonderboy19 ]
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thwap
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posted 06 April 2006 12:16 PM
Take out the word "porn" and replace it with "babble" and you've got a picture of the cross I bear.btw: goyawhatchamafuck: this isn't an online singles bar. trying to include others in such scenarios without their consent is creepy. You might legitimately think it's healthy and "therapeutic" but nothing nonconsensual ever is. If it persists people like me will ask that you be banned. [eta: I just realized what forum this is. My apologies if i appear to be acting the white knight.] [ 06 April 2006: Message edited by: thwap ]
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Accidental Altruist
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posted 06 April 2006 12:57 PM
Um. WTF?The blog link didn't work for me so I couldn't read the whole article. The addiction being alluded to is sad, frightening and serious but subsequent postings and discussion have been deleted. I feel like I've missed some kind of thoughtless 'bait n' switch' maneuver. Can anyone enlighten me here? Or should I just give up? [ 06 April 2006: Message edited by: Accidental Altruist ]
From: i'm directly under the sun ... ... right .. . . . ... now! | Registered: Dec 2005
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Stargazer
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posted 06 April 2006 02:48 PM
quote: Snickers aside, the statistic that most strongly demonstrates that the blog post above is an aberration is given by hotel chains with pay-per-view pornography - the average view time is 11 minutes.
This proves absolutley nothing except that the average time it takes to get off is 11 minutes. That's all it proves. Doesn't prove shit about porn addiction. AA, I just read that blog and I was horrified. I don't know if you'd like to read that but IMHO he made a huge stereotype of gay men and it wasn't pretty. That guy needs help, unfortunately there are a shit load of straight guys just the same. This isn't about sexual identity, it's about some serious issues that mainly men appear to have with porn. The creepy part was that he started acting this out on his partner, and then admitted to going deeper and deeper into areas that may be illegal.
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anne cameron
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posted 06 April 2006 02:56 PM
I don't think there was any "misunderstanding".I think someone had a series of brain farts and thought he was being smart... or some damn thing... and then got called asshat and realized he was more than a few yards off side. YELLOW CARD on this one!!
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obscurantist
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posted 06 April 2006 03:26 PM
Goyanamasu, I didn't read your posts here before you deleted them, so I can't really say whether Anne's take on this matter is the right one, but it sounds like it is. I saw a post you made in another thread the other day that struck me as odd at the time (I think it was the Opus Dei thread, where you've deleted your comments as well). The oddity was in the lack of context for what seemed to be intended as a bit of flirting / innuendo. (Edit: I shouldn't say "lack of context", as there was already some ribaldity in that thread, but your post was personalized to a degree that made me uncomfortable, and I wasn't the one it was directed at. I'd add that I didn't find all of your posts in that thread objectionable, although I have trouble now remembering what you said exactly.) Innuendo certainly isn't banned on Babble, but as in real life, it's a judgment call as to what the right time and place for it is, and how far you want to take it. It's a matter of thinking before you post, and not posting everything you think. (Sorry to everyone else for the continuing disruption.) [ 06 April 2006: Message edited by: Yossarian ]
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enki
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posted 06 April 2006 03:49 PM
quote: Originally posted by Stargazer:
This proves absolutley nothing except that the average time it takes to get off is 11 minutes. That's all it proves. Doesn't prove shit about porn addiction.
It certainly demonstrates that his typical behaviour of "spending hours" watching porn is abnormal. Porn addiction is a serious issue, but I don't think there's anything particularly unique about porn that makes it more addictive than any of the other vices that people typically have addictions to. It just so happens to be something that is relatively easy to consume that more or less directly taps in to the pleasure centers of the brain, making it a good candidate for addiction. That doesn't mean it is necessarily addictive.
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goyanamasu
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posted 06 April 2006 04:19 PM
I already follow that advice, Yossarian. I would have been tossed out on my butt long ago if I had not scrapped a few scribbles. deBeauxOs just set me straight: the pitfall was that to post the thing it was like setting her up with the EXPECTATION that she would play along. I would be offended if someone took it for granted that I would play their game at the drop of a pin. That's where, on another path, it looks like flirting: pure repartee but without mutual confidence. I'll be more careful about my one-sidedness.
From: End Arbitrary Management Style Now | Registered: Mar 2006
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