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jeff house
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posted 29 November 2006 03:19 PM      Profile for jeff house     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Lohse, a social work master’s student at Southern Connecticut State University, says he has proven what many progressives have probably suspected for years: a direct link between mental illness and support for President Bush.

Lohse says his study is no joke. The thesis draws on a survey of 69 psychiatric outpatients in three Connecticut locations during the 2004 presidential election. Lohse’s study, backed by SCSU Psychology professor Jaak Rakfeldt and statistician Misty Ginacola, found a correlation between the severity of a person’s psychosis and their preferences for president: The more psychotic the voter, the more likely they were to vote for Bush.


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oldgoat
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posted 29 November 2006 03:55 PM      Profile for oldgoat     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'd just like to observe that with the good and timely intervention of individuals like N.R.KISSED and myself, promoting a humanistic and non-institutional approach, this sad situation is entirely reversable. Where the subject has come up, I've found most of my clients think Bush is an asshole.
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N.R.KISSED
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posted 29 November 2006 07:55 PM      Profile for N.R.KISSED     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
As though psch. survivors don't have it bad enough without being labelled as bush supporters. "Severity of psychosis" is a pretty dubious construct to begin with. My clients are similar to Oldgoats they generally think of him as an asshole although true hatred is generally reserved for Mike Harris and his crew of idjits.

Plenty are driven mad by the conditions created by neo-liberal thugs and although conservatives are emotionally dysfunctional generally in angry and abusive ways there actions also stem from ignorance, short-sightedness and greed.


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Michelle
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posted 29 November 2006 08:31 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I saw this thread earlier and was just waiting for you to come deconstruct it, NRK.
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Vansterdam Kid
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posted 29 November 2006 08:45 PM      Profile for Vansterdam Kid   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Isn't there a difference between being psychotic, and simple mental illness, though? Psychotic sounds, severe.

The article says:

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“Our study shows that psychotic patients prefer an authoritative leader,” Lohse says. “If your world is very mixed up, there’s something very comforting about someone telling you, ‘This is how it’s going to be.’"

That seems reasonable, Kerry was a wet noodle.

In any case here's a direct link.

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Briguy
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posted 30 November 2006 05:23 AM      Profile for Briguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Just because psychotic people prefer Bush, it doesn't necessarily logically follow that Bush voters are more likely to be psychotic.

After all, there's the uneducated, the greedy, the duped, the short-sighted, and the stupid. There's a whole range of problems that could lead to a vote for Bush.


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B.L. Zeebub LLD
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posted 30 November 2006 08:10 AM      Profile for B.L. Zeebub LLD     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Vansterdam Kid:
[QB]Isn't there a difference between being psychotic, and simple mental illness, though? Psychotic sounds, severe.

I'll defer to the experts in the end but I've come to understand that psychosis isn't an either/or kind of thing, but that there are (and many, many of us enjoy) symptoms of varying kinds and severity.

As for the question of catagories, psychosis would be subsumed under the more general catagory of mental illness/defect/difference/oppurtunity.


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oldgoat
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posted 30 November 2006 10:41 AM      Profile for oldgoat     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It really depends on what sort of a model you use to understand what's referred to as psychosis. And lord knows what anyone means as differentiating from what you call "simple mental illness"

In terms of what's broadly accepted in current medical practice, you may as well look here.

Obviously a fuller discussion is merited as long as we're talking about it, and if I have time today I might start one.

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the grey
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posted 30 November 2006 10:54 AM      Profile for the grey     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Vansterdam Kid:
Isn't there a difference between being psychotic, and simple mental illness, though? Psychotic sounds, severe.

Mental Illness: "disordered functioning of the mind."

Psychosis: "a severe mental derangement, esp. when resulting in delusions and loss of contact with external reality."

(Canadian Oxford Dictionary)


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Disgusted
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posted 30 November 2006 02:25 PM      Profile for Disgusted        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, the grey's definition of psychosis certainly seems to apply to Bush himself and his equally screwed up cabal.
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