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Socrates
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posted 15 January 2005 03:57 AM      Profile for Socrates   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hola everybody!

I just got back from spending a month in Nicaragua with my school working with local NGO's and living in families and all sorts of other cool stuff.

Needless to say the experience really struck me and I found the country, it's history and politics fascinating.

So I started a thread in hopes of discussing the country and hearing what experiences or observations others might have.

In the very recent municipal elections which occured across the country the Sandinistas took control of almost all the large cities and a majority of municipalities.

Seems like there's some potential for a serious comeback over the corrupt Liberales and the current president's fledgling party, APRE.

With Ortega or without? Can they win with him? Should the Leadership change? Can the Sandinistas withstand the inevitable US interference? The US is concerned enough they've already dispatched advisors to the Liberals and Bolanos (current prez).

Anyhoo, curious to hear from y'all.


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al-Qa'bong
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posted 15 January 2005 01:11 PM      Profile for al-Qa'bong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The Sandinistas used to be our Great Cause. Back in the seventies I thought it would be "the right thing to do" to quit university and go join in the struggle.

I didn't go.

We never hear a peep about Nicaragua any more. Is there a media blackout? Could someone provide links to sites so we can find out what's going on in Central America these days?


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ceti
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posted 15 January 2005 03:22 PM      Profile for ceti     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The Americas.org web site archives a lot of articles on the Americas including Nicaragua
.

Also here's a recent but depressing dinner conversation with Fr. Ernesto Cardenal, perhaps the most respected leader of the Sandinista movement.

Perhaps the Pentagon putting the "Salvador Option" back on the table for Iraq will revive dark memories of how hope there was not just killed as put by William Blum, but raped, tortured, mutilated, and brutally murdered in the killing fields of Central America. This should be a shocking reminder for everyone with memories of that period that US policy remains fixed on building ever more charnel houses across the world.

Interestingly, from the Newsweek article, the US basically admits to DIRECTING the counterinsurgency program in El Salvador, and of course as an extension, in Nicaragua, and Guatemala. It is presents a scary insight into their thinking with both Rumsfield and Cheney seeing the counterinsurgency policies as a "success". These people are deranged and depraved, but as Demers put it in his article on the rabble.ca site, "how am I expected to ply my trade so long as reality keeps hijacking the most hysterical reaches of available hyperbole?"


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VanLuke
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posted 15 January 2005 04:32 PM      Profile for VanLuke     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
"..and of course as an extension, in Nicaragua,.."

I have the impression it was much more than just "an extension"

Isn't there a World Court judgement against the USA (which it ignored of course) in relation to Nicaragua?

The US crimes committed there rival those in Guatemala and El Salvador


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Socrates
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posted 16 January 2005 02:09 AM      Profile for Socrates   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
In Nicaragua we were plugged into primarily revolutionary organizations, lived in overwhelmingly sandinista families and had most of our conferences from Leftists (although we did have a few from other parties and anti-sand. groups).

So it is hardly surprising that the impression I got of Sandinista chances in 2006's national elections was extremely positive.

I think the most honest idea we got was from Carlos Chammoro, son of a murdered anti-Somoza journalist and icon of the revolution named Pedro Chammoro. He was a longtime Sandinista leader and editor of their paper "Barricada" as well as leader of the 1990 campaign against his mother, Violetta Chammoro, for president.

He felt that if the right split between the Liberals, exposed as corrupt and supporting their jailed leader Arnoldo Aleman, and other parts of the right such as Current president Carlos Bolanos and other dissident Liberals the Sandinistas would win easily. If the right unites he felt Ortega could not win the election and that a new leader, like the wildly popular mayor of Managua, was neccessary. He also felt that this could not happen because of Ortega's hold on power within the party.

As for the media blackout since the abrupt end of the revolution in 1990 with the election of UNO candidate Violetta Chammoro (Backed by the CIA) the one time I remember reading anything about Nicaragua was in August and September 2001 when Ortega held a commanding lead in the polls only a few weeks from the election and seemed sure to win. Then September 11th happened and TV ads comparing Ortega with Bin Laden, Hussein and other terrorists started appearing, the U.S. began to throw its muscle around and Nicaraguans faced the election question they have gotten at every election since the revolution. Vote for more war, U.S. agression and bloodshed or vote for the party the U.S. would tolerate and which could guarantee peace.


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ceti
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posted 16 January 2005 10:07 AM      Profile for ceti     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Definitely more than an extension, they are all interconnected especially through that one man, John Negroponte who was ambassador to Honduras during the time the Contras were set up and aid funnelled to the Salvadoran government. Now as ambassador to Iraq, that dark irony of history comes full circle. God help us!
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