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audra trower williams
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posted 14 September 2004 02:29 PM      Profile for audra trower williams   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I have decided that of all the characters in film I can relate to, the one that most resonates with me the girl in Lost In Translation who is watching her boyfriend play the guitar video game at the arcade. She is so bored, and she's bobbing her head side to side, out of time with the music so you know she's not really listening, and her arms crossed in front of her holding books, and WHO WANTS TO WATCH SOMEONE PLAY VIDEO GAMES???

No one. It puts me in rage. I don't like playing video games, and I have spent far too much time watching boys play video games, or "keeping them company" while they played. They can't talk while they play the games! It's just like, you talk to them, and they don't answer!

This has been on my mind for a long time, and I can't even be bothered trying to explain it better. I just think it's a symptom of an annoying gender/relationship dynamic.


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posted 14 September 2004 02:42 PM      Profile for Mandos   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
My youngest brother is glued to the screen when my middle younger brother plays video games. Until recently, he hated playing them, but he was addicted to watching other people play.

I myself am somewhat uninterested in playing video games (I used to play them). But some video games, if they have a good Story, I do enjoy watching. System Shock 2 was like that--both me and my youngest brother would watch my middle brother play it to see what the next plot twist was.

I don't know if it's as much of a gender thing any more. Most of my female friends like video games, at least a lot more than I do. Watching video games, probably too. We have network parties. Why the heck do we have network parties? I go to socialize while I help set up the network, but a lot of other people come to watch.


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posted 14 September 2004 02:43 PM      Profile for Timebandit     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
In my case, it's more a generational dynamic. I've never had a man request that I watch him play video games, ever. My teenaged niece, though, thinks this could be considered quality time.
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posted 14 September 2004 02:54 PM      Profile for Bacchus     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Sometimes I pull my hair out when my wife does it. She'll play for hours and reply and nod her head but she isnt really listening.

"so how about we have sex with the dog for something new dear and then we have have a mormon style marriage with my ex. I know you hate her but im sure you could love her"

"Ok dear dear we can try that and talk about it"

Uh huh yeah right. I just go read a book until shes done


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audra trower williams
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posted 14 September 2004 02:55 PM      Profile for audra trower williams   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I don't think that playing video games is gendered, I just think it's an obnoxious entitlement thing to expect someone who doesn't like to play them to hang out with you while you do.
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posted 14 September 2004 02:57 PM      Profile for Bacchus     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I dont think its gendered either but then remember I have the wife who loves NFL football and screams at the tv. Ive never understood it (even on our honeymoon when she threatened the bartender on the cruise ship) but I can live with it
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posted 14 September 2004 03:05 PM      Profile for Reality. Bites.        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Maybe this is a really stupid question, but why do (did) you "keep them company" while they were playing? Why not read a book or go do something in another room?

If it's a matter of him wanting you to watch, then maybe turnabout is called for. Watching you spend a few hours moderating babble without being allowed to talk is probably about as boring as watching someone play games.

For true mind-numbing boredom though, try watching someone watch sports on TV.


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posted 14 September 2004 03:15 PM      Profile for Bacchus     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
word Realitybites

definitely 'word'

edited to add

I fixed it by buying Night Gallery season 1 on DVD and a bunch of John wayne films and B horror films to watch on the other tv

[ 14 September 2004: Message edited by: Bacchus ]


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posted 14 September 2004 03:19 PM      Profile for ShyViolet     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
my boyfriend plays video games when we talk on the phone...i can tell he doesn't hear a thing i say. all he says is uh huh...uh huh...uh huh. it's very irritating, 'specially if i'm telling him something i think is important, and then he busts out laughing about something on the game. he's pretty good about not doing it when i'm over. i think he got the point after i fell asleep watching him play ddr.
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audra trower williams
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posted 14 September 2004 03:21 PM      Profile for audra trower williams   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Sometimes boys try to TRICK you. They're like "come hang out with me! I'm just playing a video game. We can talk!"

TRICK.


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posted 14 September 2004 03:33 PM      Profile for Anchoress     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
My ex used to do that all the time, and I think it's one of two things: either it's a way of getting 'mothering' like 'hey mom, look what I can do', or it's because playing video games is a form of conquest (sort of like climbing the tallest tree when they were 9), and they have that schoolyard desire to have girls watch them doing it.
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I don't get it. I don't play video games as frequently as I did at one time, but I still get into it once in a while. The last thing I want is someone distracting me. Of course I'm usually playing on a network against other players and if I get distracted, I'm dead.
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posted 14 September 2004 04:25 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think I'd find watching someone play video games about as boring as watching them play slot machines.
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posted 14 September 2004 04:29 PM      Profile for kingblake     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
or watching them read a book.
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audra trower williams
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posted 14 September 2004 04:59 PM      Profile for audra trower williams   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Most of the ladies who read my livejournal get it.
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posted 14 September 2004 05:09 PM      Profile for Bacchus     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Oh I get it too and I never do any activity (games, books, TV etc) unless im alone or she is doing something else (or im reading to her, or we are watching tv together)

Its just rude


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posted 14 September 2004 05:13 PM      Profile for Black Dog   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Sometimes boys try to TRICK you. They're like "come hang out with me! I'm just playing a video game. We can talk!"

Fool me once...do I even need to finish this?


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posted 14 September 2004 05:32 PM      Profile for Reality. Bites.        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by audra trower williams:
Most of the ladies who read my livejournal get it[/URL].

Well I'm no lady, nor a woman, but I get why it bores and annoys the hell out of you.

The part I don't understand is why you'd put up with it without at least going for the book (assuming you've ruled out going for his throat).


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posted 14 September 2004 05:33 PM      Profile for steffie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I feel that at the core it is a matter of (one person) avoiding connection with (another person) who is just eager to have "quality time" with (the 1st person), and therefore willing to sit by and pretend to pay attention.

[Gender neutral to allow for all gender dynamics]


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posted 14 September 2004 05:43 PM      Profile for Mr. Magoo   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Do these video game boys get bent out of shape if you don't watch? What if you go read a book... do they yell to the other room, "hey! watch me but don't talk!"?

Mrs. M. used to love to watch me play Quake, but only if it was more interesting than whatever else she had to pick from, and certainly not because I demanded a passive audience. She wasn't quiet either — her sudden screams lent a certain 3-D immediacy to the game.


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posted 14 September 2004 05:51 PM      Profile for audra trower williams   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Sometimes you'll be TALKING with them, and they'll start to play the video game. That's the WORST.
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posted 14 September 2004 05:54 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Somehow I sense this was inspired by more than just a viewing of Lost in Translation...
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posted 14 September 2004 06:02 PM      Profile for Bacchus     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
@ words Audra

Power switch



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audra trower williams
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posted 14 September 2004 06:10 PM      Profile for audra trower williams   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You lost me, Bacchus.

It's funny, 'lance, but it mostly wasn't. Mark isn't too terrible about video games. But I did watch Lost in Translation last week, and that one tiny scene made me go "Word".

I mean, the whole movie makes me go "Word".


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posted 14 September 2004 06:11 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yeah, it's a truly great movie.

quote:
You lost me, Bacchus.

Perhaps he meant to type "2 words," but had his Shift key on.


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posted 14 September 2004 06:47 PM      Profile for ronb     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
'lance, intrepid typo detective.
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posted 14 September 2004 06:57 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Sigh. Once an editor...
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posted 14 September 2004 07:27 PM      Profile for Gir Draxon     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Anyone who expects other people to enjoy watching them engage in a solitary activity (be it video games, knitting, anything like that) is lacking in social etiquette. Unless I am playing video games with another person, I fully encourage them to just go do something else. Less distractions for me, less boredom for them.

I just don't get why someone would want to do such a thing. Audra, you say it is a trick, but to what end? Usually playing tricks on someone is for a purpose, even if that is only to get kicks. But who (aside from biology TAs) gets kicks out of boring people? And if any guys think that playing video games impresses women, they need to be smacked with a clue-by-four. If that were the case, in junior high my friends and I would have all been casanovas


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posted 14 September 2004 07:37 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
But who (aside from biology TAs) gets kicks out of boring people?

Even though it might seem like that at times -- not even they do. Trust me on this. They'd rather you were interested.

quote:
And if any guys think that playing video games impresses women, they need to be smacked with a clue-by-four. If that were the case, in junior high my friends and I would have all been casanovas.

See, young-feller-me-lad, when I were in junior high, there were no video games -- or at least they were all lame-ass ones like Space Invaders.

So my friends and I, having to rely on our native charm and wit to impress grils, were all casanovas, and... bleah, who'm I kidding... our native charm and wit plus exact cash fare would have gotten us bus rides, if there'd been any buses in that town...


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posted 14 September 2004 07:48 PM      Profile for Jimmy Brogan   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hmm . . . watch somebody play a video game or watch Lost In Translation?

Tough choice.

Can I just have some root-canal without the anesthetic.


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posted 14 September 2004 08:59 PM      Profile for arborman     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Computers in general are a solitary pastime. You are looking at the screen, not the people around you. Look at you, you're doing it right now!

I can't watch people play video games, and arborwoman certainly can't watch me play them. They are a solitary pursuit.

The movie scene takes place in an arcade. Nobody in their right mind takes a date to an arcade, fer crying out loud.

The challenge comes when 'partner 1' wants some alonetime, with a book, video game or whatever, and 'partner 2' wants quality time. It is a certainty that quality time is not quality when only one person wants to do it.

If 'partner 1' never wants quality time, then it is a problem. If 'partner 2' always wants it, it is a problem. Vice versa also applies.

But why oh why would someone ever watch a person play videogames. I don't even like watching other people play sports (though the looming arrival of arborchild may change that).


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posted 14 September 2004 09:33 PM      Profile for Bacchus     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
stupid caps ket

Yes it was 2 words not @ words


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posted 14 September 2004 09:46 PM      Profile for nonsuch     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Myst, Riven, URU
We play it together. He's very good at some kinds of puzzle and i'm very observant. The games go on for a long time, especially if you don't ask for hints. Sometimes, when our son is visiting, he plays too. We have three of the four columns. I'm going there now.

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posted 15 September 2004 12:02 AM      Profile for Pogo   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
So the main answer seems to be don't watch if you don't want to. Is there a secondary problem in that video games are dominating your together and or social time?

When I am playing games too much my wife's solution is to walk by repeatedly while doing chores. I soon get the message. My daughters love playing games and I love to watch them play as they get to levels I never reach (someone said this before).


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quote:
Originally posted by Gir Draxon:
Anyone who expects other people to enjoy watching them engage in a solitary activity (be it video games, knitting, anything like that) is lacking in social etiquette.

Actually some people earn good money having people enjoy watching them engage in a solitary activity, at least on video.


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I thought about a sly
nudge nudge' reference to the few solitary activities that some people do actually enjoy watching (interpretive dance, for instance), but I couldn't think of anything witty enough at the time.

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This topic strikes me more of a case of a bad boyfriend.

In my first year of college, my roommate had a girlfriend. We also had 3 friend visit us often, one of which is also female. It'd be rare that all 6 of us were in the room at the same time, but any 4 of us could play the N64. I dont recall any time when either Kristy or Callista just "watched" their boyfriends play, they played themselvs and won quite often too.

On the other hand, when my Roommate wanted to play a game, and his girlfriend wanted quality time, it was not even a debate for him. The game went off.


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I would think that the answer is to make it clear that buddy has a choice. Relate to your games or relate to me; I won't let you pretend that you can do both at once. So when the game goes on, say good-bye. Go home, or if you live together, go do something somewhere else, either in another room or out and about.

To me, its a "respect thing", with power and control overtones. I wouldn't play along, regardless of gender.

editted to add a P.S.
When I saw the thread title, I was anticipating a discussion of bedroom ceiling mirrors and such.

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I think you really hit it.
quote:
with power and control overtones

seems to me to be a modern way for men to control women.


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I used to be disallowed from playing games where I was much better than the general population (eg. the boys). This relegated me to being a spectator which is BORING. I was also disallowed from playing when I sucked more then everyone else because it was supposedly tedious to watch. No kidding!

These are the times I came home early. God, I don't miss high school.


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(1) Space Invaders is not lame. Ha.

(2) I'm in a rare position where, unless she specifically dislikes a game, my girlfriend gets irritated with me if I play WITHOUT her. She likes the stories.

Like, Halo she hates (same with Berzerker on Atari 2600) so she doesn't even want me to play it if she's around (which is always, we live together) but anything with much dialogue, she wants to watch it.

Then again, she also plays a lot of games herself. RPGs mainly, but I can't beat her at Tekken for example.

I don't know what point this anecdote illustrates. I'm just tossing it out there...


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I think asking someone to stop games compleatly is unreasonable. You cant spend every moment with someone without smothering them. but limiting it to, say, a few hours a day, seems reasonable.
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Interesting thread... reminds me of a dating ritual many Taiwanese young women have to endure. They (the gf) descend down into a dark, smokey basement of an internet café (which at 50 cents/hr are pretty insanely popular) where their BF is playing one of those massive RPG games with 10,000 people on that particular server at the same time. GF's only opportunity to get any time with her BF is by playing alongside him with her own character in the game... sometimes they get all romantic and hold hands in the game. Pretty bizarre dating... they're hanging out together but they might has well be 3,000km away.

Have faith thou ladies: just like the fashion industry has manufactured what I call the "metrosexual branding exercise", expect the video game manufacturers to start targeting female video game players here in North America (Japan is certainly "further along" in this regard).

Now that's empowerment, forcing the boyz to watch you playing your VG of choice!!! [Psst... be careful you don't break the precious box!]


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posted 20 October 2004 08:24 AM      Profile for Willowdale Wizard   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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I think I'd find watching someone play video games about as boring as watching them play slot machines.

no one has mentioned pinball!

the great thing about pinball (other than being able to physically lift the machine off the ground to get the ball rolling ... try that with playstation) is the fact that you alternate playing with your date.


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1/ .. if he asks, say: NO thanks, that bores me, and leave

2/.. my son, 14, is equally obsessive and focused on the computer, absolutely absorbed and oblivious at times, esp. near bedtime;

3/ .. I think it is very much a boy/male thing to focus so intently on a screen event; I'd guess upwards of 90 per cent of hardcore gameboy/video game type things are played by young males. Look in any video room on Yonge Street or elsewhere. They hold no interest for me, but the pattern is clear: Girls generally aren't as interested.

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I could definately appreciate how boring it would be to watch people playing video games, or play golf, or solotaire

I am bad for zoning out when I play guitar... I play in another room and don't expect my wife to join me in the room and listen... my wife does her own thing, and I play play play. I find playing guitar soothing, a great stress relief. Sometimes my wife will request that I come in the bedoom to play when she is having a bath, or is reading, but I try as best I can not to impose noise on her. I do play my guitar at odd times of the day.


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quote:
Originally posted by Willowdale Wizard:

no one has mentioned pinball!

the great thing about pinball (other than being able to physically lift the machine off the ground to get the ball rolling ... try that with playstation) is the fact that you alternate playing with your date.



SO you like to play "pinball" eh,know whatahmean, know whatahmean,nudge nudge, know whatahmean, say no more?


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posted 21 May 2005 04:33 AM      Profile for verbatim   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Why am I reading this thread? I could be playing a computer game!
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posted 21 May 2005 04:54 AM      Profile for Anchoress     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Can I watch?
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posted 21 May 2005 08:07 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Way back when I was young and dumb, I had a boyfriend who thought that a really GREAT way to spend New Year's Eve together would be for him to sit at his computer for three hours backing up his hard drive while I sit in his room watching him do so. No, that's not slang for anything sexual. No no, nothing that interesting. The thing is, he had a schedule. The schedule said he had to back up his hard drive on the night of the last day of the month. And nothing was going to stop him, not even the presence of his girlfriend on New Year's Eve.

What amazes me now is that I actually stuck around that evening. This was back when I was 19 or 20, and we'd already been dating for a couple of years - so, like, we're talking about 13 or 14 years ago. (I wouldn't put up with that now, of course.) I mean, I didn't mind staying in for New Year's, don't get me wrong. I didn't have to go to a grand party or anything, and I knew this guy just wasn't into partying, meeting new people, and I knew he was socially phobic and I was crazy about him anyhow, and that's all cool.

The worst part was that he sat and stared at the computer screen while it was backing up. It wouldn't have been so bad if he'd have actually come and sat with me between putting disks in his computer, which each took about 10 or 15 minutes to copy (what can I say - slow computers back then). But no. I asked him if he could do it the next day, he said no. I asked him if he could come and sit with me, but he said his mind would just be on the computer anyhow.

Damn it, now that I've remembered this, I'm going to wake up at 3 in the morning a few times over the next while, kicking myself for being such a wimp and sticking around that night.


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posted 21 May 2005 09:09 AM      Profile for Hailey     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That is the height of rudeness. Who is so self-centered they think someone wants to watch them play a videogame?

I've never played one in my life and we don't have them in the house just because it's not an area of interest.

I can't believe anyone is that rude though.


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posted 21 May 2005 09:24 AM      Profile for Reality. Bites.        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Hailey:
Who is so self-centered they think someone wants to watch them play a videogame?

Kids (of all ages).

I blame the parents. It starts with praising them lavishly for eating and excreting, then walking and dressing themselves.

You'll see, in a couple of years your boys will be calling out "Mommy! Come watch me tie my shoes!" "Mommy! Come watch me throw the ball!"

For the sake of their future partners, please make sure you tell them they're self-centred and no one wants to watch them do mundane stuff everyone else does, and to call you when they've composed a symphony.

(Or more realistically, just make sure they outgrow it by around six)


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posted 21 May 2005 09:48 AM      Profile for Hailey     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I don't know if it would work for computer games but for sports it's easy. My husband thinks - or thought rather - that it would be wonderful if we watched sports together. The man even watched golf and fishing (yes, fishing) on television.

I assure you if you sit next to the person and ask repeated stupid questions to show your interest it leads to a re-thinking of the whole idea of watching together.

"Why do you think they chose that colour of uniform?"
"Doesn't he have to apologize to that man before he's allowed out of the penalty box?"
"Why is the ball shaped that way?"
"How do they get the grass stains out?"
"How come they don't sing along for the national anthem?"
"What age do you think they started to skate at?"
"Is Mr. Gretzky one of the better hockey players?"

Trust me. It works.


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posted 21 May 2005 10:14 AM      Profile for Américain Égalitaire   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Michelle: that incident, as painful as it appears in retrospect, sounds like good fodder for a great short story. Think about it. People can relate.

Hailey: you have a deliciously diabolically evil streak in you.

My son is absorbed in online game playing. He doesn't mind if I come in and watch. What bothers me a little is that most of these are either first person shooters or team shooters. He's on a headset talking to his "team" playing along in realtime leading fire missions. Its eerily too close to the real thing. I've talked to him about this on numerous occasions even intimating that the US military would probably love to sign him up. He assures me constantly he's anti-war and would never think of enlisting and that I believe. He also knows I feel I'd owe it to him to tie him to a tree should he ever seriously consider it, until the mood passes.

Neverthless, I'm conflicted about all of this. He gets excellent grades and the game play is extremely sophisticated. I got lost back in the days of centepede and asteroids (don't tell me, I don't want to know) and the complexity of these games is far beyond my ability to keep up.

And they are fascinating to watch (for about 10 minutes) and yet, and yet I dunno. Am I unnecessarily concerned here as a fuddy-duddy of sorts?


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posted 21 May 2005 10:28 AM      Profile for Dogbert     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I don't get why anyone would want someone to watch them playing video games. I mean, maybe for like a minute to show off a game or something, but beyond that? Frankly, it'd just distract from the game.

I have 2 cousins and a nephew ranging in age from 8 to 12. When I used to live at home and play video games while they were around, they would want to watch. Take Hailey's strategy above and multiply by 3.

Michelle, that's just bizarre. There's no reason he couldn't have delayed his backup by one night. Hell, I'd be bored out of my mind doing it myself. That said, it does my heart good to know that someone could love a geek so much they'd be willing to sit through 3 hours of that. *sniff* *sniff*

Edited to add: don't worry about your son EA. I love violent video games almost as much as I love going to peace marches. If anything, playing shooters makes me less likely to want to go to war. How many times did I just die trying to get through that fight? How many times do I get to reload a save point when I die in reality? Hmmn...

[ 21 May 2005: Message edited by: Dogbert ]


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posted 21 May 2005 11:02 AM      Profile for TemporalHominid   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Dogbert:

Michelle, that's just bizarre. There's no reason he couldn't have delayed his backup by one night.
[ 21 May 2005: Message edited by: Dogbert ]


No, that is not bizarre. This behaviour could be a range of things, possibly an expression of OCD (note: I am not saying this is a case of OCD Michelle refers to in her story). It is very possible for all sorts of people to be non-flexible, rigid when it comes to schedules, or behaviours, and that's just the general population.

I suspect for me being OCD, playing guitar may be a comfort zone for me. If I didn't play guitar my OCD could express itself in other ways, and in fact it does, and people can't stand being around me when I engage in some behaviours or talk. I don't have severe OCD, but my son does.
Whoever dates my son is in for a real test.


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posted 21 May 2005 11:20 AM      Profile for GJJ        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The most surprising thing is that anyone wants someone to watch them play computer games. I tend to play when my partner watches TV because I know I'll get an hour or two of uninterrupted time. Having someone watching makes it hard to concentrate, especially if you're playing on-line realtime strategy games. I've long since lost count of the number of speed-chess games I've lost because she wanted to talk while I was playing ... generally the only thing to do is turn off the computer, because talking while playing generally means you do neither well, leaving both you and your partner feeling frustrated.
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posted 21 May 2005 03:46 PM      Profile for raccunk     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I didn't realize how boring watching a person play video games/surf the net/etc. could be. I've actually done something like that to an ex of mine. He hated watching me read books and surf the net. I didn't think anything of it because I've had friends/boyfriends do that to me plenty of times and I just didn't care. If I got bored I would just do something else. My ex was really offended by it though. He got upset with me a couple of times and claimed I didn't really care about spending time with him. I didn't think I was being rude. I'll try to be more sensitive in the future.
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