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skdadl
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posted 07 July 2005 04:40 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Although I have actually had an awful day today and am not expecting it to get better soon, I really feel that I have earned a moment of triviality, so this is it.

This is yet another episode in the endless story of how long it is taking me to unpack after my move, ah, seventeen months ago.

Last night I rescued yet another couple of boxes dumped by my movers in the black hole (I told them to do that, not their fault) last January, and sat down to discover what might be inside. (This is such fun, to dig up stuff you haven't seen for two years, although that raises, of course, the question of why you still bother to have it at all. Please don't interrupt me with logic.)

And there were all my old shoes, the ones I hardly ever wear but have just never been able to face getting rid of. One pair -- black suede, with fairly low but very sexy heels -- I would still wear ... if I ever had to go any place sexy, which is not looking likely in the short term.

But the others are such museum pieces. I should phone Mrs Bata.

All these years, I have saved two pairs of spikes, one pair bought in 1971, I think, and the other probably early eighties. I sat there laughing at them last night -- at one point, I took out a tape measure, and the heels of both clock in at 4 1/4 inches.

But then, bit by bit, they kind of seduced me. I put on the older pair, my very favourites, which I actually did wear quite a bit back in the seventies. The heels are very narrow but stacked wood (probably getting ready to separate); the foot and ankle straps are natural tooled leather, a bit cow-girlish, an effect reinforced by the raised soles, which are edge-stitched. Just call me Elton John, eh?

So I clomped around a bit in them. Were the kitties freaked or what?

I actually could walk in them, although I'm not sure I'd try that any more on pavement. It gave me a bit of a pang to remember that I once ran up and down subway stairs in these things.

And then I put on the other pair, a silvery grey pair that I think I only ever wore twice, very pretty, scalloped edges on the footstraps, but when did I ever wear grey?

By then the kitties were all cowering in the corners. They don't usually communicate with one another, but I could tell what those glances they were exchanging meant.

Well, it was quite fun, and I'm still not going to toss these artifacts, although God knows I'm never likely to wear them again either. It has been so long since they've been in touch with human skin that the leather has become quite brittle -- I'm sure those thin straps would snap after not much strain on them.

So anyway: that's my triviality for the day, and the true story of why I went back to my German sandals today (the relief!). There are some other nondescript two-inchers that I might toss, but I think I shall hang on to the bitchy spectaculars.

[ 07 July 2005: Message edited by: skdadl ]


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posted 07 July 2005 05:21 PM      Profile for nonsuch     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Gosh, you musta been a hot babe!

I'm short, and have had my share of frustration with that (never saw a live parade; was always last served at the ice-cream stand - because they let little kids slide to the front, but not little adults), but never managed anything higher than 2" heels... and walked like a Shetland pony in those (no flamenco dancer was lost in me!). Had switched to serviceable leather flats (from Bata, next door to Honest Ed's; one pair every second fall, c. $25) by '73; to joggers and moccassins by '95.

I see a few young women in tall shoes and dresses, who carry it off with grace, and i still envy them a bit. Girls of 15 or so can't seem to manage high heels well. So, i'm guessing, the 30-somethings have mothers who wear, or used to wear, tall shoes, while the next generation has nobody to teach them the technique.


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posted 07 July 2005 05:26 PM      Profile for scooter     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by nonesuch:
Gosh, you musta been a hot babe!


No kidding. There are so few women and men that look good in verrrry high heels.

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skdadl
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posted 07 July 2005 05:29 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Whaddya mean, "musta been"?

No, though: I think I was just trying to keep up appearances. I stopped doing that some time ago. Whew.


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posted 07 July 2005 05:32 PM      Profile for Anchoress     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That's so funny skdadl, because I have a pair of shoes almost exactly like those, right down to the height of the heels, and I bought them at a second-hand store when I was about twelve, no doubt once belonging to someone with less sentiment or worse legs than you.

I've just now put them into my 'give away' box because I no longer wear the kinds of clothes they'd look good with. Also, the leather's all dry.


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posted 07 July 2005 05:37 PM      Profile for Sharon     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I still have a pair of red leather high high heels that I can't seem to get rid of. I have always loved red shoes. And I have the off-white slingbacks that I wore on my wedding day although they're a much more modest two-inches-or-so high.

I don't think I would wear high heels anyway but I don't wear the kind of clothes that high heels would look good with -- no little black dresses or pin-stripe business suits. In the summer I wear long dresses with sandals. In the winter, I wear black trousers and flow-y silky tops. High heels just wouldn't look right.

(Anchoress and I just used exactly the same words to describe our clothes.)

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posted 07 July 2005 05:37 PM      Profile for alisea     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ooooh, I had heels like that, too, in the mid-70s. *AND* platforms.

I have no idea how I ever walked in them, and I'd fall off if I tried now :-)

Horrible things, torture the feet, yada yada, but damn I looked good in them :-) ;-)


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posted 07 July 2005 05:39 PM      Profile for Contrarian     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
No high heels here; I manage to fall off of flat shoes regularly. Even worse, my feet are too wide to squeeze into the teeny little pointy ends. Bsides, I prefer to sneak around in runners and give heart attacks to the clompers.
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posted 07 July 2005 05:48 PM      Profile for Anchoress     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I started wearing high heels when I was twelve. My mother wouldn't let me wear them outside the house of course, but that didn't stop me from stocking up on them at second hand stores, funded by my lucrative babysitting business, or failing that, my grandfather.

I took to them instantly, and frankly I've *never* met a pair of high heels I didn't like. If they aren't too small or too narrow, they just don't hurt, even after 12 hours on my feet.


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posted 07 July 2005 06:16 PM      Profile for nonsuch     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
*thread-drift warning* In no way, and by no stretch of the imagination, a feminist issue.

To keep leather supple forever: petroleum jelly. Rub on, let stand 10 minutes, then wipe off, with a soft cloth, about once every six months. We used to do that to protect winter boots against salt. (I just read a thing on WD40, sez it works just as well, but can't say whether it's true, as i stopped wearing leather 15 years ago.)

quote:
Whaddya mean, "musta been"?

Well, i did hesitate over that, but the German sandal reference tended to reinforce my suspicion that you'd given up hot babe-ism for a new persona; something more ... practical? PC? cuddly? virtuous? intimidating?

re-edit: -hood, not -ism. Pardon my moran-dom ( -ity).

[ 07 July 2005: Message edited by: nonesuch ]


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posted 07 July 2005 07:09 PM      Profile for Gir Draxon     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by nonesuch:
Well, i did hesitate over that, but the German sandal reference tended to reinforce my suspicion that you'd given up hot babe-ism for a new persona; something more ... practical? PC? cuddly? virtuous? intimidating?

I think the word you are looking for is FABULOUS


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posted 07 July 2005 07:15 PM      Profile for baba yaga     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
thanks skdadl - i needed that story about late unpacking and high heels more than i thought today. i have a funny story about a pair i bought in Mumbai (then still Bombay), but i'm still steeped in news to read and strawberries to wash at tne mo. i'll bring it in later.
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posted 07 July 2005 10:20 PM      Profile for red shoes     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
OK, I love high-heeled boots. Big, pointy, spiky, black, dangerous, lethal high-heeled boots. I hate myself for it. NO I DON'T!!
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posted 07 July 2005 10:32 PM      Profile for Hailey     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Anchoress I am so jealous!
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posted 07 July 2005 10:54 PM      Profile for ephemeral     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
skdadl, i so enjoyed reading your thread. unpacking and remembering things gone by is such a joyous, exciting thing to do, yet it's almost always accompanied by sad feelings of longing for something that may never be part of one's life agan. sigh, always live life to the fullest, and do whatever your heart desires, i say. memories are better than regrets.

myself, each year i get more and more sensible and practical. my older women friends predicted this would happen to me as i got older, and i'll be a quarter century old next month. i like to cover up more parts of me, and dress in a way that will bring least attention to me. i prefer not to wear heels so i can walk long distances (although i have no trouble riding my bike in them), and i feel heels can't be so great for my back in the long run. i've always liked strappy, classy sandals with high heels - but not shiny ones. i've got a few pairs of shoes with heels, but, after the end of my student days, i don't seem to ever find the occasion to wear them. i wore my black strappy ones once last year. oh, and i love dancing in them, but that thought is making me cringe right now cause i've sprained my ankle, and the very idea hurts.

wouldn't it great if we could have a babbler party that gave us an excuse to dress to the nines?


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posted 07 July 2005 10:59 PM      Profile for Anchoress     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by ephemeral:
skdadl, i so enjoyed reading your thread. unpacking and remembering things gone by is such a joyous, exciting thing to do, yet it's almost always accompanied by sad feelings of longing for something that may never be part of one's life agan. sigh, always live life to the fullest, and do whatever your heart desires, i say. memories are better than regrets.

For me that particular feeling is a combination of memory *and* regret, because no only am I recognising that something may never be a part of my life again, but it's acknowledging that I wouldn't want it to be. For me anyway, part of the pain of remembering is realising that honestly I wouldn't want to have a time or situation back again even if I could.


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posted 07 July 2005 11:42 PM      Profile for ephemeral     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
posted by anchoress:
For me that particular feeling is a combination of memory *and* regret, because no only am I recognising that something may never be a part of my life again, but it's acknowledging that I wouldn't want it to be. For me anyway, part of the pain of remembering is realising that honestly I wouldn't want to have a time or situation back again even if I could.

i guess it depends on what the memory is, and i understand what you mean about things you honestly wouldn't want to do/have again - i have a few of those memories. but aren't you glad that such things were once part of your past? for the happy memories, i'm glad i had a chance to experience those. i'm glad even for the stupid, embarrassing memories because i feel they made the improved part of myself stronger. there's a reason why i gave something up, i learnt a lesson from it, and i'm less likely to want something superficial back in my life because i've already tasted it.


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posted 07 July 2005 11:59 PM      Profile for Anchoress     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Sorry ephemeral, I'm trying to reconcile what I mean with your post, but it's hard.

Here are some examples:

I wouldn't want any of the people in my life who are dead to be alive again. I wouldn't want to be back at my favourite job. I wouldn't want my best friends who moved away to have stayed in Vancouver. I wouldn't want the happiest summer of my life to have continued. I wouldn't want back the wonderful boyfriend whom I didn't appreciate until after I dumped him. I wouldn't want to have kept the dress I didn't realise was my favourite until after it was gone. I wouldn't want to have answered differently when my favourite platonic boyfriend told me he was in love with me. I wouldn't want back the ambition that drove me to do what I did in the music business. I wouldn't want back the relationship I thought would be the last of my life, even though at the time I *fought* tooth and nail to keep it alive.

That kind of stuff.

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posted 08 July 2005 12:01 AM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I get so jealous of the Latina women in my neighbourhood who really know how to wear high heels. And they are not usually taller, or necessarily slimmer, than I am. I never could manage the really high ones, though I wish I could find another pair of those ones that weren't so high but had really sexy Cuban heels.

I have some arthritis in a foot and find it hard to find sexy shoes I can wear - and no, I'm not a running shoe person unless I'm actually running. (i.e. never, but I have had shoes like that for gym exercise). Nonesuch, how on earth do you find non-leather shoes that don't kill your feet?

Actually, my German (Rohde) sandals, red, with a bit of a platform heel and a nice shape, are far sexier than my very ordinary but comfortable Clarks sandals. But then, they are red, and red shoes could be the subject of another thread...


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posted 08 July 2005 12:29 AM      Profile for baba yaga     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
lagata -

quote:
...how on earth do you find non-leather shoes that don't kill your feet?

for me, one word: Merrell. Yep, they're expensive, but if you can get your hands on a pair they will last for years and years. I've only bought their sandals (I think most of the winter gear has animal bits on them) and my feet feel really supported for long walks & bike rides.

[ 08 July 2005: Message edited by: baba yaga ]


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posted 08 July 2005 12:41 AM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Baba yaga, good to know, though most of those are far too "sportsy" for my tastes, unless I am actually doing something like hiking or touring on a bicycle. I like to walk a lot, but think walking in a European city. I wear skirts and casual dresses far more than trousers...

Ideally, I'd be wearing hand-crafted shoes in very soft leather with a Cuban heel - or one just a bit higher, more sturdy and serious than a kitten heel, but with that grace, and walking effortly through the streets of the city. We will not think of bombs as in London, but perhaps a panne de courant, walking home effortlessly as people attempt to hail cabs.

Elle n'est plus tout à fait jeune, mais elle a du charme...


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posted 08 July 2005 01:16 AM      Profile for nonsuch     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Though vegetarian, I don't actively avoid leather in all forms (would be kind of hypocritical, with five cats and a dog to feed!), i just don't buy leather shoes on purpose. Still have my old mocs; otherwise, it's track shoes (mostly fabric and rubber), snow-boots (canvas and rubber), slippers (fuzzy and velcro), or no shoes.
I don't go to work or dancing.

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I have large feet, a ladies size 10, or a men's size 8. As a teenager I often had to wear men's shoes.

Today I am sort of a follower of Joy MacPhail in that my favourite pairs of shoes are a two pairs of Dayton boots, on Western, the other lace. Both are incredibly durable and while they do have a heel, it's functional and doesn't leave me feeling sore in the lower back.

I find the whole idea of "ladies shoes" to be kind of ridiculous, and it's especially apparent for women who are tall, or large, or who work on their feet.

A funny aside. I met a woman who ran a shoe store in Vancouver for about five years in the 1980s catering to women with larger feet sizes and needed durable work shoes. Many nurses and female letter carriers came to her store. So did a certain number of men who were cross dressers including a tugboat captain. Once upon a time they were returning from a convention in California when they ran into car trouble in rural Oregon. When a state trooper pulled up and offered to help, they were terrified. But the trooper must have been a bit sheltered, he bought the act and never questioned it.


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I've never had a problem with high heels. What I do have a problem with is skinny heels: stiletto styles or kitten heels. I can wear chunky heels of any height comfortably, but once the end is pointy, I feel very odd. Still, I usually wear at least a bit of a heel, as I have rather muscular legs and I think it suits them to be in heels.

I've also noticed that my favourite shoes and favourite boots are approaching this shape anyway, since I've lived in Edinburgh. The cobblestone streets wear done heels to make them pointier.


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posted 08 July 2005 05:25 AM      Profile for Suzette     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by skdadl:

But then, bit by bit, they kind of seduced me. I put on the older pair, my very favourites, which I actually did wear quite a bit back in the seventies. The heels are very narrow but stacked wood (probably getting ready to separate); the foot and ankle straps are natural tooled leather, a bit cow-girlish, an effect reinforced by the raised soles, which are edge-stitched. Just call me Elton John, eh?


I don't suppose you have a digital camera, skdadl? These shoes sound fab, and I'd love to see them!

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posted 08 July 2005 06:14 AM      Profile for Melsky   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by kurichina:
I've never had a problem with high heels. What I do have a problem with is skinny heels: stiletto styles or kitten heels. I can wear chunky heels of any height comfortably, but once the end is pointy, I feel very odd. Still, I usually wear at least a bit of a heel, as I have rather muscular legs and I think it suits them to be in heels.

I'm the same way. It's not the height as much as the thickness! I don't like thin heels for asthetic reasons as well as the comfort.


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Yeah, I don't like the look of pointy heels that much either, Melsky.

What I really hate is pointy toed shoes! I think they make the feet look so clown-like and long. I don't imagine they're comfortable but I can't know for sure because I'd never wear them to find out.

quote:
Originally posted by skdadl:
I should phone Mrs Bata.

You should! I imagine they're still collecting shoes of all eras for that museum (which I love, btw).

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posted 08 July 2005 07:32 AM      Profile for Suzette     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
In the late eighties I used to wear a pair of pointy-toed, very high stilettos regularly. This is all the more tragi-comic when you consider that I have very wide Homer-Simpson-esque feet. I brought these shoes out of storage a few months ago and showed them to my young (and astonished) nieces, who had a good deal of trouble believing that they were mine, saying, "But you only wear boys' shoes!"

I'm happy with a wide heel, too, but wouldn't be brave enough to go out on the street in my old spikes, for fear of
a)getting them stuck in a drain grating
b)piercing someone else's foot
c)having an undignified stack which may or may not cause injury to body and pride.

Besides, they're stupid, which is the best reason yet.


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posted 08 July 2005 07:49 AM      Profile for Anchoress     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I used to wear a pair of Morticia Addams shoes, with huge exaggerated toe points and witchy semi-stiletto heels. I also have very wide feet, but they were extremely comfortable. The heels were so pointy they had to have these huge lead divets on the tips, which I had to have replaced every few months. I wore them almost every day for several years in high schoool.
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My Homer feet stretched my shoes so much that with the pointy toes they ended up looking like commas.
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I saw a drawing of what a woman's foot would have to look like to fit into those super-pointy toed shoes. The big toe was in the center. People's feet are just not shaped that way. I think it looks odd.

What I really don't understand is the trendy fashion now of wearing pointy shoes with ragged bottom flared long jeans. The pants are so long and wide they totally cover the shoe. If I was going to wear shoes I couldn't walk in I would at least want people to see them all the time.

Another shoe pet peeve of mine is really flimsy shoes. I don't like those shoes I see that are just a heel and sole, with 2 or 3 little spaghetti straps on them. They look like they are going to fall off. I always wonder if the wearers glue the shoes to their feet to keep that from happening.


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posted 08 July 2005 08:58 AM      Profile for Suzette     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Melsky:
Another shoe pet peeve of mine is really flimsy shoes. I don't like those shoes I see that are just a heel and sole, with 2 or 3 little spaghetti straps on them. They look like they are going to fall off. I always wonder if the wearers glue the shoes to their feet to keep that from happening.

There's a very special walk that goes with those "shoes", Melsky. In fact, each style of silly shoe has a specific Silly Shoe Shuffle to match. I like to spot them, birdwatcher-style, when I'm in the city. The "man, these new shoes have chewed the back of my heels so they're grinding on bare flesh" hobble is a good one for beginner spotters to get started with.


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I know that effect, Suzette!

One thing I remember from the days when so many women were wearing spikes/stilettos as a matter of course -- we were hell on floors, especially lino but even wood floors (and probably rugs). What were we thinking?

I do have a digeridoo camera, Suzette, but I need to figure out how to get a photo hosted. Maybe I'll come back with that photo, though. I mean, the shoes aren't really up to Sir Elton's standard, but you'll see the vague relationship.


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Just because I laugh at shoe victims doesn't mean I haven't felt that pain. The great irony is, though, that in an effort to look glam, the awkward Silly Shoe Shuffle just kills any "look" stone dead! Oh fashion. Evil mistress.

photobucket's ok for image hosting. If you need a hand, just PM me. (Can you tell I'm a helpless shoe hussy intent on seeing these Seventies numbers?)


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Did you catch Jane Fonda's appearance at the Oscars a few years ago, right after she left Turner and re-established herself in Hollywood?

(God, I can't believe I'm typing this stuff. )

Anyway, she was obviously treating that appearance as a sort of coming-out, or a re-emergence, proof that she had survived yet another dorky man and bounced back looking even better than ever.

So her way of choosing to do that was to wear a clingy dress that would have been a slip in MY day and some teeter-totter spikes, and then to walk all the way across the stage in this very odd, stiff posture, her body displayed sideways (so we could see how thin she is) but her face turned full-front to the audience, back rigid, not graceful, and every one of those steps a jolt.

I thought that was so bizarre. To me, it was a portrait of overcompensation for deep insecurity, and I did feel sorry for her, although I was wishing that she could get past doing such things.


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posted 08 July 2005 01:05 PM      Profile for puzzlic     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Platforms. I have two pairs of 4" sandals that make me 5'10". I can walk around in them all afternoon and my feet still don't hurt. Those skinny stilettos make my feet hurt just to look at them, but love looking girly and tall -- platforms are the way to go, at least for me.
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quote:
What I really don't understand is the trendy fashion now of wearing pointy shoes with ragged bottom flared long jeans.

Christ! That is so hideous. I haven't worn high heels for 20 years or more and I wouldn't have even considered them with casual pants. Gross!


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Hi all!
I haven't really disappeared from the face of the earth--just busy, busy, busy with work & an important new relationship. But as some of you have guessed about me, I'm a baby-boomer fashionista & I couldn't resist a comment or six about this topic.

Because of my age [over 45--blush!] and my career [lawyer] I wear heels a lot, and, frankly, I like them & the way I look when I'm professionally dressed. Maybe because I've worn heels since about age 12 [any others of my age remember just begging mom for your first pair of dress heels & how you felt wearing those shiny black shoes with an inch & a quarter heel?], I still do not have a problem walking in heels [as someone mentioned, grates on the sidewalk are deadly! but shoe makers are happy to charge you to make repairs].

The other thing that prompts my comments is my new significant other. As I mentioned elswhere on this board, I divorced some years ago & went a long, long, long time without a lover in my life. Now I am in a wonderful, loving, empowering relationship with another woman. [Frankly, I don't know if I'm a lesbian or bisexual or questioning & exploring--I really don't give a d--m!] She makes me happy. We communicate. We share our lives on many levels. And she relocated to be near me. No one has ever loved me as she loves me! Are we happy? Absolutely!

I've taken care of myself. But having had children & gone thorough "change-of-life", I've some padding on rear end & on my tummy.
My S.O. is tall, slim & very athletic. So this spring I started wearing a "control garment" [fancy name for new fabrics in garments that we used to call a "girdle"] and very high heels (4" which just barely brings me up to her chin) when she & I go places together. And the best reason for doing both of these? I like the way I look! And my lover likes the way I look! And you know what that leads to, don't you?
Are we playing into old-fashioned stereo-types? I hope not. Both of us are sucessful career women who have made good names for ourselves in traditionally male-dominated fields. Perhaps our age, up-bringing & culture shape us more than we care to admit. However, the ultimate response for me is that I like looking good for my lover. Her obvious appreciation when I come into a room enlivens my heart more than I can say.
In another century, maybe two lovers will dress quite differently for each other. Yet for tonight, when my lover comes to take me to dinner and I meet her wearing my high heeled sandals, I know that I will look good--I'll see the compliments flashing from her eyes. Love is not blind. Love may make us fool-hardy!


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posted 08 July 2005 04:36 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That was lovely, belva.

I can think of two babblers especially, andrean and vickyinottawa, who have taught us to say, "No way those are stereotypes! That is FABULOUS!" Whatever makes you feel that you are clicking from the nerves (and especially if you are doing that in unison with someone else) -- that is FABULOUS!

But, man, belva: you must have tough ankles.


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posted 08 July 2005 04:39 PM      Profile for Sharon     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Wow. That's a good story.
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posted 08 July 2005 04:39 PM      Profile for Tommy Shanks     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
I should phone Mrs Bata.

Thread drift:

I used to work in the Bata building at Eglinton and DVP, and actually met Mr. and Mrs Bata quite a few times.

To passersby, it seems there is a lot of land surrounding that building. However there were basements and sub-basements that were filled with her shoe collection prior to the Museum being built. It was pretty cool being able to pick up a pair of Elton John boots, or antique Chinese slippers. They were just there on racks.

As well, there were so many it basements it felt like I was going spelunking.

Thread drift ends...


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posted 08 July 2005 04:57 PM      Profile for belva     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by skdadl:

But, man, belva: you must have tough ankles.


I guess it's just several decades of wearing heels. In my youth I wore heels through most of the months of my pregnancies! I wonder now how I could have been so crazy?!?!!??
My S.O. says that my ankles & legs are some of my best features.
Can you tell that I'm in love? Frankly, I'm amazed to be turning --well, turning a year older--& finding myself with the feelings of a high school girl. Yet maturity adds spice, the way a good wine is aged. Maybe mature women really do make the best lovers.


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posted 08 July 2005 05:07 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Tommy Shanks, I thought to myself as I started to write about shoes, "This is going to uncover some hidden depths."

Isn't it funny, the shoe fetish? I mean, it is so odd.


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posted 08 July 2005 05:19 PM      Profile for Anchoress     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Wow belva what an awesome post! Woo Hoo to happiness!
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posted 08 July 2005 05:28 PM      Profile for belva     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Anchoress:
Wow belva what an awesome post! Woo Hoo to happiness!

Thanks, anchoress!
I hope others find the joy I've found in the last six months.


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posted 08 July 2005 06:06 PM      Profile for nonsuch     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It is such a rare joy to come here and read about something happy - like love - or something oprdinary and sort of frivolous - like shoes - instead of rapine and pillage!
I really appreciate this.

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posted 08 July 2005 10:24 PM      Profile for Digiteyes   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I grew up in Montreal (my teen-age years were the early to mid-seventies) and spent all my time in 4" heels.

Many years later, after about 15 years of wearing flat shoes almost all the time, I bought myself a pair of sexy boots this winter.
I can still walk in high heels.

But I'm feeling the pain of it these days

I still have a number of pairs of shoes that I have refused to throw out (s.o.: "Why don't you get rid of those? I've never seen you wear them).

I'm saving them for the day when a project in my mind gels.
I want to take pictures of the shoes, and print them on satin with pithy saucy sayings to match each pair of shoes (royal blue court shoes; stiletto snakeskins; clear acrylic and rhinestones) and make pillows.

That will give me a more comfortable way to remember them.


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posted 09 July 2005 01:45 AM      Profile for andrean     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
My favourite high heels are good enough to
eat! (scroll down a little bit)

I actually do own those shoes, or ones quite a bit like them, and my talented friend recreated them for my birthday.

My other favourite heels are black, with five inch heels and two inches of platform and the skinniest of straps holding me onto them. Alas, since I sprained my ankle last fall (while wearing flip flops, to add insult to injury!), I fear that I may never be able to wear them again.

Belva, I'm happy to learn of your new happiness. I think femmes are hot and though my beloved generally doesn't, I'm fortunate that she happens to think that this particular one is okay.


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posted 09 July 2005 09:01 AM      Profile for Tommy_Paine     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Nonesuch's tip on petroleum jelly reminds me of how we used to break in new baseball gloves. First, we'd get them wet, put a ball where you wanted the pocket, then tie the glove closed around it. After it dried, you'd repeat the process with the petroleum jelly wiped all over.

But on to shoes. I guess from a strictly feminist perspective, high heels might be politically incorrect; they inhibit mobility, and sacrifice health and safety for the sake of fashion.

But on the other hand, women who have mastered grace while wearing heals-- not runway vamping grace, but a matter of fact kind of grace-- send (to me at least) a signal of power and confidence.

I've seen fetish shoes that are unwearable. Foot long heels. Or six and seven inch heels that are technically wearable, but must be murder on the toes. The idea here though is not to spend too much time upright in the shoes.

A custom leather/fetish supply guy here in London says the foam or gell ball of foot pads work well to alleviate foot pain from high heels. I don't know if he comes by that first hand. I suspect it comes from annectdotes from his male and female customers.

Pointy toed shoes. Let me put my hair in a creepy pony tail and grab my folding paper fan for a minute.... I think the whole idea behind high heels and pointy toed shoes for women has to do with the musculature of the human leg. Men's calves are all flat, angular and bulky. A flat ordinary shoe seems to compliment that form. A woman's leg, however, is all smooth lines, which seem to want to conclude in a point, which is primarily why I think women wear high heels and guys don't. Or at least most guys.


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posted 09 July 2005 09:33 AM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
I'm saving them for the day when a project in my mind gels.
I want to take pictures of the shoes, and print them on satin with pithy saucy sayings to match each pair of shoes (royal blue court shoes; stiletto snakeskins; clear acrylic and rhinestones) and make pillows.

That will give me a more comfortable way to remember them.


Digiteyes, what a groovy idea. Can you be hired?

For Suzette's sake, I have taken a few pictures of the cowgirl shoes, and I will upload them sometime later today.

Love those Fluevogs -- real Minnie Mouse shoes, those are.


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posted 09 July 2005 09:37 AM      Profile for Suzette     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by skdadl:
For Suzette's sake, I have taken a few pictures of the cowgirl shoes, and I will upload them sometime later today.


Whoo hoo!!

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posted 09 July 2005 01:07 PM      Profile for ephemeral     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by belva:
I hope others find the joy I've found in the last six months.


aw shucks, now ain't that sweet! *warm, fuzzy feelings all over* it's wonderful to know that there are people who are so incredibly happy in love together. (i am too ). best wishes to you and your lover, belva.


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Ok: just before I attempt to insert the IMG, I want you all to know that I am sometimes quite a good photographer. I am! I insist! I have been known to take good pictures. Grr.

But I have obviously not figured out this bricklefritz camera yet, so this is gonna be fuzzy.

I am a poor workwoman who is blaming her tools.



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posted 09 July 2005 01:57 PM      Profile for ephemeral     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
wow, skdadl! how do you say it... "they are a beau"? i.e., they are beautiful. umm, what colour are they really? everything looks red. i don't think i've ever worn anything that tall.

*off to measure highest heels in shoe closet*

3.5 inches, and there's another pair that's almost the same. how tall did you say yours were again?

i'm usually a very clumsy person. really, i walk into great, big walls and door knobs all the time. but, strangely, i handle myself quite well in my heels.


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posted 09 July 2005 01:58 PM      Profile for kuri   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Those are cute!
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posted 09 July 2005 02:03 PM      Profile for belva     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by andrean:
My other favourite heels are black, with five inch heels and two inches of platform and the skinniest of straps holding me onto them. Alas, since I sprained my ankle last fall (while wearing flip flops, to add insult to injury!), I fear that I may never be able to wear them again.

Belva, I'm happy to learn of your new happiness. I think femmes are hot and though my beloved generally doesn't, I'm fortunate that she happens to think that this particular one is okay.


Wearing flip-flops? There is no justice, my friend!

Many thanks to you, to nonesuch & to emphemeral (as well as to the others who posted such thoughtful & loving comments) for the very kind wishes. I shared them with my dearest today & she expressed her thanks & deep appreciation. Then she commented that it's too bad we don't live in Canada so that we could have state recognition of our love! I bubbled with joy at the unspoken thought!

And to the originator of this happy thread: thanks so much, skdadl--I'll be watching for the pictures.


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posted 09 July 2005 02:07 PM      Profile for belva     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by skdadl:
But I have obviously not figured out this bricklefritz camera yet, so this is gonna be fuzzy.

Wow! I saw you posted while I was writing.
Thanks, skdadl!
Nice shoes!


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posted 09 July 2005 02:12 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
belva! Summer holiday in Canada! Toronto Old City Hall: marriage licences while you wait, and a very pleasant, respectful ceremony, too. I've been a witness at one of those, and it was lovely, as fine a ritual as one could ask.

(Actually, you may have to get the licence somewhere else, but I believe it can all be done in one day.)

ephemeral, the colour isn't far off, but everything in that room is that colour -- I guess that was mistake one. They're just a natural tan, very cowgirlish. Sad that you can't see the top-stitching. (Grrr.)

I tried the flash, but that was worse -- bad glare.

If my adviser were here, he'd show me how to lighten the photo up in my own program. Perhaps I shall plague him for help.


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posted 09 July 2005 10:23 PM      Profile for Digiteyes   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by skdadl:

Digiteyes, what a groovy idea. Can you be hired?


no, but feel free to use the idea!


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Hope you don't mind, photo tweaking is a bit of a hobby.

Nice shoes, you! I've come over all sentimental. Thanks for posting the picture.


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posted 10 July 2005 07:20 AM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Now you gotta tell me how you did that.

I'm supposed to know, actually, or at least I have been given a couple of seminars by my adviser, but I haven't been practising for a while, so I've forgotten even the little I knew. Use it or lose it, eh?

No way to fix that focus, though.


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Does "dicking about" constitute an answer?

It's done in Photoshop; adjusted the levels to bring up the light and depth; ran the blur brush over the background to bring the shoes forward a little and cut out the "busyness" back there; ran the dodge tool over the foreground; burn tool over the shoes a little to give some depth and "weight"; brought up the blue level a bit (in "variations") to tone down the yellowness that came from lightening it. Could have done with a bit less yellow still, now I look at it.

I <3 Photoshop.


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posted 10 July 2005 07:55 AM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Does that symbol read: "I bosom Photoshop"?
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No, it's "I double-scoop ice cream cone" Photoshop. Obviously.
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I think it's lovely to read the warm feelings and good times you all associate with fancy footwear, their fun and the sexiness they bring out in you. I find it interesting that the same kind of confidence and empowerment that seems to be spoken about, is akin to what I felt and have felt ever since I stopped wearing high heels.

I have bad feet. I can't wear even a sportsy kind of sandal for more than half a day without my feet aching for the support of my sneakers and orthodics. Also, I like to run and jump around even at the most inappropriate times, and inevitably this happens during the kind of evening that one never expects to find themselves running. Whenever I wear a dress I find myself halfway through the night wishing I could sit in an 'unladylike' fashion or hop on my bike without showing all to the world (high heels and fancy dresses have always been in the same category for me).

As a teenager I used to on occasion strap myself into the impractical shoes or the restricting dress because I was supposed to. I never really enjoyed it, but I was either made to feel or flat out told that it was necessary. Gradually, I began doing it less and less and now, I have a couple funky pairs of dressy flats and some dresses I like to wear over jeans...but that's about it. And the amazing thing is I feel more like me and so much sexier and confident in this attire than I ever did before.

I went through a militant period after this discovery where I quite blindly believed that all women wearing heels and fancy dresses must somewhere deep down feel as shackled as I did. I think I pretty much believed that anyone putting themselves into mobility hindering attire was in some way oppressed.

Thankfully with time my views on things have changed. It's nice to see we can all adorn ourselves as we please, because we please.


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