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Topic: I wish I had the Taliban as my soldiers...." -Pres. Karzei
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Neocynic
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posted 02 June 2008 05:25 PM
As Canadian troops die in Afghanistan, it is good to hear some words of appreciation from our man in Kabul, on whose behalf our boys are shedding their young blood.If you are in the mood for some black humour, read and weep as Karzei spills the beans as to who are the really corrupt ones in Afghanistan: us. His Excellency President Karzei In the context of at least the 4000 "liberated" Afghanis who died last year, 1000 being children, and massive NATO "surgical" airstrikes, it is time for Canada to demand, and indeed, it would be in far better keeping with our traditions, that Peace Talks for the establishment of a coalition government begin now. It would put us ahead of the curve, for once, requiring political bravery, and allow us to contribute what we have always been historically recognized for being best at worldwide. So let us leave off our silly preoccupation with our pathetic little puffs of gunpowder in Afghanistan. Our strengths lie not with our military, but our diplomatic skills. This will require intellectual honesty, subtlety, and deft management, things sorely missed in our foreign policy to date. With the sounds of Kabul residents being blown to bloody pieces now echoing in Karzei's ears, he will be forced to join with the Taliban in a coalition government. Victory will have been declared, freshly liberated school children and women will be paraded about, peace shall reign! Both "equal partners", that is until the cameras are switched off. Then, surely as night follows day, Karzei will be dumped overboard, along with his "liberated" citizens. And thus, our "mission in Afghanistan" will sink with nary a murmur, a footnote for a gravestone. Amnesia will block our ears and blind our eyes, -a mere channel flick away. Afghanistan will fall to the floor, the discarded toy of a malevolent child. Worry not, nor envy the psychopath's sleep, for the horror we have wrought. All corpses rot to dust, and true human remains are found only in the minds of orphans and hearts of widows. And they too do soon turn to dust. And for all here who "loved" our troops, who brayed for the bombs, the air strikes, the torture and the murder, who cheered the bravery of our soldiers, will dare not brave the stares of our victims: here come the bereaved, zombied by misery, their eyes painted in pictures of their dead. They trail galleries of the thousands, hundreds of thousands killed for nothing but our policy failures. What one thousandth child would not break your faith, what one thousandth child would not now, in the candle light of your private thought, make every cheek blush? Take heart, it is almost over. We still yet have a few more of our young men to sacrifice. As life's last light leaves the eyes of another dead soldier, who in the acute brilliance of their youth and innocence, set down childish things to take up our banners, and die in this wasteland, please whisper a reason. Say anything, pretend anything, give them something to hold on to. Only you who support this war will be left alone to live with your reasons.
From: Toronto, Canada | Registered: Sep 2006
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sanizadeh
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posted 02 June 2008 10:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by ceti: Well, the Taliban are true believers fighting for what they see as a noble cause. What does Karzai fight for? He can only rally those who want a brighter future for Afghanistan, but they are demoralized by the rampant corruption and their status as a puppet of NATO.Also before 2001, the Northern Alliance was losing badly to the Taliban, and were routed out of most of Afghanistan, so you could see the problem.
I think "true belief" only works on short term in a war. Taliban's success in the first couple of years might have been attributed to their belief. Since then, and especially after their five-year reign of terror, belief can no longer explain it. I think most of their success is related to having the money, organization and necessary ruthlessness. A combination of bribe and fear works every time. They are still supported financially and logistically by Saudi money and Pakistan Intelligence service, and I doubt even the US is too serious about fighting them.
From: Ontario | Registered: Dec 2007
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George Victor
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posted 03 June 2008 02:12 AM
Graeme Smith's articles out of Afghanistan for the Globe and Mail, which first exposed this country's government and military leadership for turning over suspects to the Karzai regime for torture, and then, a month ago, for articles on detailed interviews with Taliban fighters, asking WHY they fought (relatives killed and impoverishment from loss of poppy fields headed the list) told us something about the real picture over the last several months.Graeme impressed the heck out of me as a teenager,and as a young graduate of Ryerson who was always reaching for the moral high road. We do have reporters who actually "ask questions". They don't work for m'lord Blacks old crew of neo-cons ...or cons, as the case may be.
From: Cambridge, ON | Registered: Oct 2007
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