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Granola Girl
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posted 18 February 2005 12:12 AM      Profile for Granola Girl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Log on to www.stolencarshow.ca and feel the rage! This is the latest marketing campaign by the Insurance Corporation of British Columbia, a publicly owned motor vehicle insurance company.publicly owned What do you gals think? Is this exploitative marketing? Who is the target audience? Why such a blatantly sexist campaign? Am I just too sensitive????
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Mandos
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posted 18 February 2005 01:34 AM      Profile for Mandos   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
On the one hand, I agree with you. It's a little bit too much on the wrong side of inappropriate particularly for a public corporation...

...on the other hand, if you look at it as a sort of ironic self-mockery, it's quite amusing. Hilarious, at points.


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Granola Girl
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posted 18 February 2005 01:40 AM      Profile for Granola Girl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm quite aware that its supposed to be an ironic send up of a typical car show. However, considering that the campaign is funded with public monies and aimed at (presumably) both male and female drivers, I fail to find the humour...do only straight males who find skinny women in overalls and stillettos humourous need to be reminded to use an anti-theft device on their auto??? This ad campaign has frat boy art director written all over it...
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Mandos
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posted 18 February 2005 01:43 AM      Profile for Mandos   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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I fail to find the humour...do only straight males who find skinny women in overalls and stillettos humourous need to be reminded to use an anti-theft device on their auto???
Hmm...I thought they were the ones actually being mocked (the males) and that it was a joke that women would find funny. However, seeing as it is rather subtle and can be taken the wrong way, I agree with you that it was probably a bad choice for a public corporation.

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posted 18 February 2005 01:51 AM      Profile for Anchoress     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think it's stupid but I'm not offended. And just a note, it's not only sponsored by ICBC, but by BCAA and these guys (explains a lot):

And you think she's skinny? I don't.


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posted 18 February 2005 02:18 AM      Profile for Mandos   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
In the bait car video, they censor the apparently reallife thieves foul language. Being a prude, I wholeheartedly approve.
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posted 18 February 2005 01:47 PM      Profile for Granola Girl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The thing that bothers me about these images is the assumption that a highly sexualized image of a woman is something that naturally goes with a desirable car...the whole idea of using sexualized women as commercial tools is basically objectionable and these images, I would argue, do hurt women -- how many of us constantly compare our bodies to the bodies that we see in media of this kind? When a public company sponsors these ads it effectually forces female taxpayers to subsidize their own body image oppression.

I do not agree with mandos assertion that the ad makes fun of men. If this were true, why weren't the men the focus of the ad?The women in these ads are clearly sexualized for male enjoyment (see autographs section, for instance). Using these images, even ironically, makes it seem okay for 'hot' sexualized women to be used as a marketing device -- what purpose does conflating the ideas of car theft and sex serve?


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posted 18 February 2005 01:56 PM      Profile for kuri   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I agree this is inappropriate for a publically funded campaign. Mandos is right that it also insults men. Even if the men aren't the focus, everyone looks stupid on that site - the posing, sexualized woman and the "drooling", overeager men.

As an aside, I'll never use steering wheel locks again. I had one that broke on me while it was on the steering wheel, and I had to pay a locksmith $50 to remove it. Now, I just make sure it's looked and keep absolutely nothing inside of the car.


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posted 18 February 2005 02:00 PM      Profile for voice of the damned     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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I do not agree with mandos assertion that the ad makes fun of men. If this were true, why weren't the men the focus of the ad?

The ad was spoofing the experience of being at a car show. When you go to such a show, you view it from the perspective of an audience member, so you mostly see the people or things that are on stage, not your fellow audience members. But you would HEAR the things said by the audience members, which is probably why the things said by the men in the ad are clearly audible.

And if I recall correctly from viewing it about half an hour ago, the men in the audience are basically made out to be goofballs.


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posted 18 February 2005 02:08 PM      Profile for Granola Girl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes, but in trying to subvert the "car show genre", as it were, the ad only perpetuates the same, tired old images of sexually alluring young women whose breasts seem to be the most interesting thing about them - that and their fawning desire to be seen as objects of sexual attention...If parody was the goal of the ad, then surely focusing on the drooling audience would have been more appropriate (just for example)?
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posted 18 February 2005 02:20 PM      Profile for voice of the damned     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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If parody was the goal of the ad, then surely focusing on the drooling audience would have been more appropriate (just for example)?

Well, in parody I think the idea is that you portray the genre itself, not the consumer of the genre. For example, when late-night comedy does satirical news broadcasts, you see the fake anchormen reading the joke news items, not the people in the audience at home watching the news.

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Yes, but in trying to subvert the "car show genre", as it were, the ad only perpetuates the same, tired old images of sexually alluring young women whose breasts seem to be the most interesting thing about them -

But the sexually alluring young women are part and parcel of a typical car show. I guess the question then becomes if parody per se is capabale of being done in such a way that doesn't perpetuate the genre.

I don't wanna draw any far-fetched comparisons here, because I highly doubt that the creators of that ad had any real deep social purpose behind them. With that caveat: do you think that feminist activists who reproduce media imagery that they consider to be sexist with the purpose of encouraging critique of said imagery are also guilty of perpetuating the genre?

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posted 18 February 2005 02:40 PM      Profile for Granola Girl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by voice of the damned:

I don't wanna draw any far-fetched comparisons here, because I highly doubt that the creators of that ad had any real deep social purpose behind them. With that caveat: do you think that feminist activists who reproduce media imagery that they consider to be sexist with the purpose of encouraging critique of said imagery are also guilty of perpetuating the genre?

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Oooh. That's a really good question! Hmmm...I'd have to say no on the following count:

When feminists parody sexist ads, they must, by neccessity draw attention to the offending image by re-contextualizing it - say by spraypainting a counter message over a corporate billboard or reproducing a sexist ad on the back page of Ms. for example. In this case, using the genre of a car show was not necessary - ICBC and co. could have made their point about car theft devices in innumerable other ways. Therefore, recontextualizing the car show genre seems to me a way of using sexist imagery with free reign while crouching behind the defense: it's only parody, you silly uptight feminist you!


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posted 18 February 2005 11:57 PM      Profile for Amy   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Almost all I've been thinking has been said about the topic, but as I was looking at the site I noticed that she's wearing a badge that says 'hot'. The thing that makes it funny to me is that on first and second glance, I thought it said 'het'.
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Rebecca West
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posted 19 February 2005 12:16 AM      Profile for Rebecca West     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
When I looked at the Flash presentation, the first thing I thought was, "they did a really crappy job". On reflection, I think it's a fairly lame attempt to parody something that is infinitely parodiable, car shows, and could've been done in a truly funny and incisive way.

No points for imagination, but I'm not offended by anything but the lack of imagination.


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posted 19 February 2005 04:20 AM      Profile for angrymonkey     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I agree with Rebecca. And Granola Girl who sees frat boy art director all over it. There are so many opportunities ripe for parody. They pick the one with the most male sex appeal(coincidentally I'm sure) and don't do a good job at all. And I'm not even talking about incisive criticism, the Simpsons had a far funnier parody of car shows.
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Michelle
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posted 19 February 2005 07:40 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Granola Girl:
do only straight males who find skinny women in overalls and stillettos humourous need to be reminded to use an anti-theft device on their auto??? This ad campaign has frat boy art director written all over it...

Would only straight males want to make fun of a typical auto show and the mooks who act like the guys in the audience on this clip? Heck no.

I think it's a funny parody, at least the first part. Actually, I don't think it's THAT funny, but not because I find it offensive - I just find the punchlines and parody to be a little too studied, that's all.

[ 19 February 2005: Message edited by: Michelle ]


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