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kelip
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posted 25 October 2007 05:10 PM

It's sad to see how powerless the local 27
is at Electro-Motive.There might as well
not even be a union there Brutal.

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Tommy_Paine
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posted 25 October 2007 05:33 PM

You might want to flesh that out a bit.

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kelip
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posted 11 November 2007 12:04 PM

Yea I was dismissed from Electro-Motive
for a safety infraction the union was
adament that I deny the infraction .
After 1 year they come to a conclusion
that they will not take my case to arbitration
and I am left without a job with no support
from the union .I can see the company being
assholes but the union?Why even have a union.

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kelip
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posted 11 November 2007 12:47 PM

This is just and example of the CAW all they
want is your dues .The caw is so top heavy
just like goverment.Magna employess are making there biggest mistake.

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windsorworker
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posted 12 November 2007 07:26 PM

What exactly did you do ?? If the union will not take it to arbitration then something is definately up . By the way this is one local you are talking about not the entire CAW . I suggest you plan to appeal this through the labour board or maybe court action is needed.Again though this all depends on what you did and what your record is like .

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kelip
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posted 13 November 2007 02:28 PM

I had absolutely nothing on my record I missed
only one day .I was accused of breaking a safety
rule ( holding a clamp on a switch )according to two felloew employees .No supervisor seen this
infraction only two fellow workers.I was told
buy my local that I would get my job back for
one year.Than the National union decided to
drop my case.It's nice to see the support
fron the union when you have a family to
look after.

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co-worker
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posted 16 November 2007 04:55 AM

You are very sure that your actions as a person
running a very (extremely)large machine dangerously with many warnings from your fellow workers, should be without reprisal. Interesting that you only state that this is the unions fault. Maybe you should look at the fact you were over-riding a safety feature, put in place for the safety of yourself and others. As it turns out your fellow workers (4 of them)were not comfortable with their lives being put in danger. So uncomfortable, that after repeatedly
telling you not to do what you were, that they crossed the taboo line in a union shop, to speak against you. Where do you get off blaming your union for that. How can they defend your position against the word of fellow workers, and why would they spend the money to go to arbitration to do it.

[ 16 November 2007: Message edited by: co-worker ]

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windsorworker
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posted 17 November 2007 12:50 PM

Figures . There is no excuses in putting fellow workers in danger .

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Tommy_Paine
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posted 17 November 2007 01:31 PM

I knew there was much more to this. I may disagree with the stance of the President of Local 27 on politics and especially the Magna lunacy, but I've never known him to shy away from arbitration in defense of another worker's job, and I doubt he'd stand for it inside one of the units in the local.

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co-worker
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posted 18 November 2007 05:11 AM

When Kelip speaks of his local union he is talking about our inplant committee. I don't anticipate anything else from him on this issue after my frank response. Tommy and Windsorworker I appreciate your support. Often this kind of union bashing comes from a lack of knowledge or atleast a denial of fault, which you should know is the case here.
I'm new to the site and will certainly pay alot more attention to it. This particular article was brought to my attention and I've learned alot already reading through the Magna issue. There certainly seems to be some intelligent union perspectives and would again like to thank-you both for the articles I've read.

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Tommy_Paine
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posted 18 November 2007 06:39 AM

quote:
When Kelip speaks of his local union he is talking about our inplant committee.

True, but it's the usual way of things that if a member isn't getting satisfaction from his in plant committee in an amalgamated local like 27, whether it's procedure or not, it makes a stop at the local president's desk. And the member also has the ability to appeal the decision not to arbitrate directly to the members at a unit meeting.

I've seen it done.

It does bring up the issue of where solidarity ends though, in a union. My experience is that it ends when a member puts either other members, or members of the public in danger.

A higher ethical standard that what we see in most professions.

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co-worker
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posted 18 November 2007 08:42 AM

This one definately put the lives of others in danger, and had things have started to go wrong there would have been nothing he could have done about it. Sad he lost his job, sadder still he put his own concerns infront of the safety of others.

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