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jeff house
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posted 14 April 2005 02:56 PM      Profile for jeff house     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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The retailing behemoth, whose $10 billion annual profits are based on low prices, low expenses and its relentless pace of store openings, announced it will shut the doors here May 6 after workers voted to make this the first unionized Wal-Mart in North America.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A51521-2005Apr13.html


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sock puppet
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posted 14 April 2005 03:01 PM      Profile for sock puppet   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Begins?

I've always refused to shop there.


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Michelle
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posted 14 April 2005 03:03 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I was quite surprised that the union that tried to organize the Walmart in Quebec that shut down right after the certification vote didn't call for a boycott then.

I think it's long past time.


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Amy
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posted 14 April 2005 03:11 PM      Profile for Amy   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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"It's like we are digging our own grave," said store employee Nathalie Dubois, 38, a single mother with no other job to go to, as she helped pack up the store

NO NO NO! It's fucking well not! This makes me SO ANGRY. It's not 'digging your own grave' when your employer decides that because you asserted your legal rights to workplace representation that they'll lay you off. It's them digging it for you, and then blaming you.

Goddamnit, WalMart are really good at manipulation, too.

Edited for missing words, again.

[ 14 April 2005: Message edited by: Amy ]


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Bacchus
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posted 14 April 2005 03:11 PM      Profile for Bacchus     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well according to the article Jef fposted, there was some sort of boycott and the store was generally empty. (which kind of lets walmart show that it was unprofitable)
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Amy
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posted 14 April 2005 03:17 PM      Profile for Amy   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Oh, yeah, I know that it's part of a larger story, but I hear this kind of quote all the time... I'm not going to join the union because they'll just close the store if we do... and they did.
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josh
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posted 14 April 2005 03:20 PM      Profile for josh     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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Some here in Jonquiere don't believe the company's claim that the store was losing money. They say the chain sacrificed the store to make a point to its employees across Canada and the United States, where union organizers are involved in dozens of organizing drives and court battles.

"They closed it to be a threat to other unions," said Tremblay, the mayor. "We know that for Wal-Mart, Jonquiere is nothing. They wanted to close it to make a lesson to other Wal-Marts."



Exactly.

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Bacchus
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posted 14 April 2005 03:23 PM      Profile for Bacchus     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
"It's like we are digging our own grave," said store employee Nathalie Dubois, 38, a single mother with no other job to go to, as she helped pack up the store

Well apparently its a lesson learned and repeated gleefully in the media.

My previous comment however was directed to Michelles post, not Amys


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Michelle
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posted 14 April 2005 03:28 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The article stated that there was an "unofficial" boycott of the store in that town. What I was talking about was different. The union was specifically stating after this little performance on the part of Walmart that they weren't going to call for a boycott of the store for some reason or another, if I remember correctly. And my response to that is, why the hell not?

Unions across Canada should be calling for a boycott against this nasty employer.


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Amy
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posted 14 April 2005 03:30 PM      Profile for Amy   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Oh, ok. I was sort of confused, I thought you were trying to say that somehow they did 'dig their own graves', but that didn't really seem like something you'd say.
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lagatta
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posted 14 April 2005 03:41 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Michelle, the problem is that there are other organising drives ongoing (as the Washington Post article states) elsewhere in Québec.

Though I fear Wal-Mart will shut down even its most profitable stores here if they organise. Unions faced the same quandary here (and elsewhere) in the case of McDonalds. After shutting down another store in La Tuque (another "near-North" town), it shut down an outlet on the South Shore, and then even the McDonalds on Peel Street dead centre in downtown Montréal - moreover it got a steady stream of customers from tour buses that parked by Dorchester square opposite the place.


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radiorahim
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posted 14 April 2005 04:00 PM      Profile for radiorahim     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Unions across Canada should be calling for a boycott against this nasty employer.

The UFCW as I understand has not called for a boycott of Walmart in order not to "hurt" the other organizing drives.

Instead they've urged folks to talk to Walmart workers in a supportive way about how you support their right to unionize.

Although all kinds of progressive-minded folks have had an "unofficial" boycott of Walmart ever since they entered Canada.

I understand the labour movement has events planned at Walmart stores across Canada on May 7th.


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Michelle
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posted 14 April 2005 04:02 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I know this is going to sound really unsympathetic, but...isn't it GOOD if they shut down even their most profitable stores?

Hear me out. I know that it's going to mean that a lot of people will be out of work. But it stands to reason that people are still going to need the products they were buying at Walmart, right? And that surely there will be other businesses that will fill the gap.

Of course, then again, it's not like mom-and-pop stores are any better when it comes to labour standards - and in many cases, probably worse in some ways.

Still...I like the idea of telling big box retailers that they're just not welcome unless they're willing to allow workers to organize, and unless they're willing to negotiate fair wages, benefits, and working conditions. And that doesn't just go for Walmart, but for any store.

Walmart's just particularly egregious because, as the most profitable and largest corporation in the world, with revenues in the billions, they can SURELY afford to pay their workers a living wage, and improve working conditions.


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sock puppet
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posted 14 April 2005 04:06 PM      Profile for sock puppet   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Market leaders have always been the targets of unionization. In this fashion, standards are imposed and raised in our society.

By allowing Walmart to crush union drives, governments have conspired to force a race to the bottom on the weakest members of our society.


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Gir Draxon
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posted 14 April 2005 04:07 PM      Profile for Gir Draxon     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Social issues aside, I don't shop at Wal-Mart because it is simply a terrible place to shop.
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radiorahim
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posted 14 April 2005 04:18 PM      Profile for radiorahim     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Still...I like the idea of telling big box retailers that they're just not welcome unless they're willing to allow workers to organize, and unless they're willing to negotiate fair wages, benefits, and working conditions. And that doesn't just go for Walmart, but for any store.

Interestingly, there was a strike at Eastern Airlines in the U.S. back in the 1980's where workers were in effect, striking to put themselves out of work.

They were striking to get horrendous corporate raider Frank Lorenzo out of the airline business.


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robbie_dee
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posted 14 April 2005 04:41 PM      Profile for robbie_dee     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Radiorahim, do you (or any of the lawyers here) know what legal remedies a union has available in Quebec or elsewhere in Canada if an employer closes down its business expressly to bust a union?

I would consider this an unfair labour practice and would hope that a Labour Board could order the employer to reopen.

But I understand there was a Supreme Court Case about a year and a half ago that restricted the Quebec Labour Board from ordering such remedies. I posted a thread about it a while back but didn't get too many responses, so I'll try again:

IATSE v. Place de Arts


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the grey
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posted 14 April 2005 04:41 PM      Profile for the grey     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
"It's like we are digging our own grave," said store employee Nathalie Dubois, 38, a single mother with no other job to go to, as she helped pack up the store.

From the quote itself, it isn't clear that she's referring to the attempt to unionize. It seems a much more apt reference to the task of packing up the store.


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Amy
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posted 14 April 2005 04:50 PM      Profile for Amy   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
andrewtgsadler, I don't think it really matters what this particular person was referring to, the author of the article put it in the section that spoke to the unionization, not the boycott. I'm not angry at this woman by any stretch of the imagination, but at fact that this view is very often held by people who are afraid to unionize their workplace. It makes me angry that so many people are bullied into thinking this, and that the companies that do the bullying have gotten away with it once again.

edited to change "strike" to "unionization"

[ 14 April 2005: Message edited by: Amy ]


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robbie_dee
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posted 15 April 2005 01:37 PM      Profile for robbie_dee     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
*bump*

Anyone have an answer to my question above?


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radiorahim
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posted 15 April 2005 02:19 PM      Profile for radiorahim     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Radiorahim, do you (or any of the lawyers here) know what legal remedies a union has available in Quebec or elsewhere in Canada if an employer closes down its business expressly to bust a union?

Sorry but I don't know the Quebec Labour Code that well so don't know what legal remedies are available. Maybe Jeff House knows? He's a lawyer.

But I suppose, UFCW's lawyers are going to try to make that case. I doubt that the Quebec labour board could order Walmart to re-open.

However its possible that they could impose some other kind of penalty on Walmart if they convict them of unfair labour practices. And whatever they do, Walmart will end up appealing all the way to the Supreme Court of Canada.

They have deep pockets to pay lawyers and will take even the most frivolous anti-union case as far as it will go.


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posted 15 April 2005 02:38 PM      Profile for WingNut   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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NO NO NO! It's fucking well not!

I think you are interpreting wrong. When I read it, I understood the reference to be the act of packing up the store. A more literal digging.

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