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Hephaestion
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posted 21 April 2005 09:23 AM      Profile for Hephaestion   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
queerday.com reports:

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Author Alan Duff told GayNZ.com to “piss off” when asked for an explanation as to why he signed a letter to MPs last year suggesting gays were more likely to abuse and murder their children. “You lot have overstepped the mark, like the feminists did, and have lost the plot and become hysterical but worse than that, bullies,” he said.

In response transsexual New Zealand Labour MP Georgina Beyer said, "Progress toward equal rights for the GLBT community in law are seeing a redneck backlash, and we’d better be prepared to stand up and take it," says New Zealand Labour MP Georgina Beyer. “I’ve said it myself, it’s coming on the horizon, we’d better have an intelligent response to it if we’re going to have any response at all. Yes, there’s going to be nasty speak out there. Wake up gay New Zealand, you’ve got to take it. And when you give it back, make sure you engage brain before you engage your mouth.”


The open-minded Mr. Duff


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posted 22 April 2005 12:47 AM      Profile for NDP Newbie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Just another reich-wing Maori United Future thug.
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Amy
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posted 22 April 2005 01:22 AM      Profile for Amy   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
How does labelling the backlash a 'redneck' one jive with calling for an intelligent response? I totally agree with the need for intelligent responses (although I admit that sometimes it is beyond me to do that when I'm faced with idiots who insist on being judgmental assholes toward me and other queer, etc. folk) but it urks me that she used the term redneck in the same sentence.
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Vansterdam Kid
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posted 22 April 2005 06:16 AM      Profile for Vansterdam Kid   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by NDP Newbie:
Just another reich-wing Maori United Future thug.

I don't get what your talking about. The Maori's are the native population of New Zealand. Not to say there wouldn't be homophobia in that community, but what does this have to do with anything? Do you mean this guy is anti-Maori too cause I wouldn't be suprised.


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posted 22 April 2005 08:35 AM      Profile for WingNut   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Which is more irksome, a redneck claiming gays are more likely to abuse children or a gay advocate calling a redneck a redneck?
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posted 22 April 2005 11:59 AM      Profile for NDP Newbie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
No...I just hate those reich-wing Maori parties that are cool with Whites, but aren't fond of Asians or homosexuals.
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Amy
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posted 22 April 2005 12:26 PM      Profile for Amy   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Of course it makes me angry when people call queer folk (and so, me) murderers, but it makes me so angry that really I can't begin to fathom it. It takes a long time to process statements like that because they are abusive, and I know that some people don't react as strongly as I do but if I really think about it, it makes me cry and never want to leave the house.

However, that doesn't mean that it's OK to use a term like redneck when calling people to action against that sort of prejudice. I know a fair few people who take the term redneck to mean simply that they themselves work outdoors in physical labour, and using the term in a statment like this is counterproductive IMO.


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WingNut
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posted 22 April 2005 12:43 PM      Profile for WingNut   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Honestly, I don't think it matters.

Maybe it matters if someone is unsure of their attitudes with regard to gays. But when someone is out and out saying gays are sexual predators and then hostile when challenged on it, I think it is right that they be defined as what they are: bigots. And redneck is just another word for bigot although there has been some efforts to rehabilitate it.

I mean, there is this sense on that we don't respond to fire with fire. Fair enough. But who is getting burned?


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Hephaestion
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posted 22 April 2005 06:01 PM      Profile for Hephaestion   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by WingNut:
I mean, there is this sense on that we don't respond to fire with fire. Fair enough. But who is getting burned?

Well said, Wingy. And, if push comes to shove, not everyone is adverse to using fire, either...


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