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audra trower williams
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posted 15 August 2003 10:35 AM      Profile for audra trower williams   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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During the eight hours that this ship sits in our harbour it will produce the equivalent exhaust of 12,240 running automobiles. Black water (shit and piss): 40,000 gallons a day. Grey Water (showers and sinks): 360,000 gallons a day. Solid waste (food and garbage): 14,000 kilograms a day. Hazardous Waste (photo chemicals, dry-cleaning, paint, solvents): 15 gallons a day. Oily bilge: 7,000 gallons a day.

Wow, I knew cruise ships were bad, I didn't think about how bad.


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redshift
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posted 15 August 2003 11:01 AM      Profile for redshift     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
systemmic from the looks of this list.
http://www.cruisejunkie.com/largefines.html

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mighty brutus
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posted 15 August 2003 12:37 PM      Profile for mighty brutus     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
As well,many Cruise Lines are known for their poor or nearly non-existent labour standards.(sorry, don't have a link)
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audra trower williams
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posted 15 August 2003 02:12 PM      Profile for audra trower williams   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
And their commodification of culture!

(from the same article as linked to above)

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This is the cruise pavilion of Cozumel, Mexico, the equivalent to Pier 21 in Halifax. Up to 16 cruise ships have been known to stop here in a single day—that's 40,000 passengers, few of whom will actually stray outside of this Mexico shopping theme park. Why bother? They only have a few hours, and this convenient facility satisfies all their tourist urges. They can buy the Mexico T-shirt, snap a photo of the Mayan ruin and eat a mild beef burrito that is guaranteed to be free of parasites and other intestinal shit disturbers. A flotilla of glass bottom and snorkel excursion boats are busy taxiing the more adventurous cruisers to and from the reef. The traffic out there is horrendous, all those little boats circling over the coral reef like sharks in a feeding frenzy, competing for the best fish. Little do all the cruisers know this complex of Mexico-style fun is entirely owned and operated by the Carnival Corporation—the PepsiCo of the cruise industry. All the Mexicans around here are actors, hired to play the part, paid substandard wages.

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CanadianAlien
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posted 16 August 2003 11:32 AM      Profile for CanadianAlien   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I remember reading the same info in Vancouver last year. There were a series of articles about it and discussion in public realm. I think there was discussion of requiring ships to shut down generators when docked, stricter grey water dumping regs, etc. If I recall there are jurisdictional issues. City of Vancouver is obvioulsy immmediately affected but port operations are federal Port of Vancouver, marine waterways are regulated by Federal gov, with various air, aquatic life issues regulated by either Federal or Prov govs. That bogged everything down. I have worked in the Vancouver lower mainland as a fisheries biologist and can attest to the internicine nature of regulations related to marine/estuary/fisheries issues. Also, not least of the whole issue is the $$ issues involved with competition of Port of Vancouver with Seattle for cruise ship biz. Surprisingly, cruise ships have not received the same level of attention as poor logging practices, etc.
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