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Topic: Bush suggests Obama wants "appeasement"
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Lord Palmerston
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posted 15 May 2008 08:13 PM
quote: JERUSALEM (CNN) – President Bush launched a sharp but veiled attack Thursday on Sen. Barack Obama and other Democrats, suggesting they favor "appeasement" of terrorists in the same way some Western leaders appeased Hitler in the run-up to World War II.The president did not name Obama or any other Democrat, but White House aides privately acknowledged the remarks were aimed at the presidential candidate and others in his party. Former President Jimmy Carter has called for talks with Hamas. "Some seem to believe we should negotiate with terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along," Bush said at Israel's 60th anniversary celebration in Jerusalem. "We have heard this foolish delusion before," Bush said in remarks to Israel's parliament, the Knesset. "As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, an American senator declared: 'Lord, if only I could have talked to Hitler, all of this might have been avoided.' We have an obligation to call this what it is — the false comfort of appeasement, which has been repeatedly discredited by history." The remarks seemed to be a not-so-subtle attempt to continue to raise doubts about Obama with Jewish Americans. Those doubts were earlier stoked by Sen. John McCain, the presumptive Republican nominee in the 2008 presidential election, when he recently charged that Obama is the favored candidate of the Islamic fundamentalist group Hamas, which the U.S. government has listed as a terrorist group.
http://tinyurl.com/4cdy37
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josh
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posted 16 May 2008 03:06 AM
Best response goes to Joe Biden: quote: An exasperated Biden skewered Bush over that in a conference call with reporters, calling the comments “pure politics,” “blatant,” “beneath the presidency,” “truly disgraceful,” “outrageous,” “disturbing,” “ridiculous hypocrisy” and “long-distance Swiftboating.” He even said Bush “oughta get a life.” . . . . Coupling Bush’s comments with McCain’s assertion that it’s clear who Hamas wants to be president, Biden said he sees “an ugly pattern emerging.” He said the president should “get in touch with his administration.” “I assume he’s going to fire his Secretary of State and Secretary of Defense,” Biden said. “They want engagement of Iran.” He went on. “This is the kind of political rhetoric which continues to masquerade as policy,” Biden said. “All they have is masquerades.” . . . . Biden also sharply criticized Bush’s -- and John McCain’s, for that matter -- Mideast policy, or in McCain’s case lack thereof, Biden said. He called Bush’s policy an “abject failure,” “truly delusional” and “backwards.” “The president’s saber rattling has been the most self-defeating policy imaginable … spurs instability in the Middle East … increase in price of oil … plays into the hands of those Iranian leaders he rails against. “Since when, since when has talking removed no from the American vocabulary.
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/05/15/1027733.aspx And my personal favorite: quote: This is bullshit.
From: the twilight zone between the U.S. and Canada | Registered: Aug 2002
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TemporalHominid
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posted 16 May 2008 08:54 AM
Bush is engaging in a-historical rhetoric againthe US currently has diplomats talking to North Korea, Chavez in Venezuela, to the Iranians, and has great dialogue with Syria; the CIA uses Syria to torture "enemy combatants", so obviously there is dialogue Bush's administration sent the diplomats to these countries Bush is an idiot [ 16 May 2008: Message edited by: TemporalHominid ]
From: Under a bridge, in Foot Muck | Registered: Jul 2004
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Fidel
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posted 16 May 2008 11:43 AM
quote: Originally posted by farnival:
hmmm, could those Nazi's be the same ones Bush's grandfather Prescott was trading with until 1941?
It wasn't until late 1942 when U.S. feds ordered seizure of UBC's Nazi front bank operations on Wall Street. It was approximately the same time that the Nazis key battle at Stalingrad ground to a standstill. Roosevelt and Churchill fully expected the Nazis to occupy the Kremlin in about six week's time from the start of Nazi operation barbarossa, and after Hitler poured two-thirds of the Nazi war machine into the heart of Russia. The Russians were expected to put up a courageous battle as did the Poles, but none of the western leaders or Hitler realized just how well the industrialization of Russia had prepared them for war. Between 1928 and end of the 1930's, steel production in Russia increased by over 500 percent. [ 16 May 2008: Message edited by: Fidel ]
From: Viva La Revolución | Registered: Apr 2004
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