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skarredmunkey
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posted 16 August 2008 02:04 PM      Profile for skarredmunkey     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
... will be held on the 27th. Kathleen Connors is running for the NDP in Cape St. Francis, and Tim Howse is running for the NDP in Baie Verte--Springdale.

They both ran in last year's general. The results for: Baie Verte-Springdale ; and Cape St. Francis.

[ 16 August 2008: Message edited by: skarredmunkey ]


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Ken Burch
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posted 16 August 2008 08:52 PM      Profile for Ken Burch     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Those seem, from the CBC descriptions, to be pretty solidly working-class ridings, even somewhat impoverished ones. Why, then, did the Tories take both of them by better than three-to-one in the 2007 election?
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Stockholm
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posted 17 August 2008 05:25 AM      Profile for Stockholm     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Almost every riding in Newfoundland could be described as "solidly working class" and the Danny Williams Party (aka the PCs) took about 75% of the vote across the province.

In fact the the lone NDP riding Quidi Vidi-Signal Hill in St. John's is relatively wealthy compared to the province as a whole.


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posted 17 August 2008 02:09 PM      Profile for robbie_dee     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I understand Cape St. Francis overlaps with the federal riding of St. John's East. How do the NDP's chances look there? Rumour has it former NFLD NDP leader Jack Harris may be taking a federal run there (he held the seat once before, after a federal byelection in 1987). Any chance of a spillover effect, in either direction?
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posted 18 August 2008 02:36 AM      Profile for skarredmunkey     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm not that familiar with Baie Verte-Springdale but Cape St. Francis has been PC since the days of Joey Smallwood. The town of Torbay is a rapidly growing bedroom community which makes up about three quarters of the riding's population. It and Logy Bay-Middle Cove-Outer Cove, like nearby Portugal Cove-St. Phillips (which is in a different riding), are becoming home to more and more retirees and professionals who work in St. John's, which bodes well for the PC candidate Kevin Parsons. Connors should/will stress her healthcare background and make hay over the breast cancer screening debacle, but it doesn't appear that voters are attributing blame to the government for it.
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I understand Cape St. Francis overlaps with the federal riding of St. John's East. How do the NDP's chances look there?
I suspect that Jack Harris is out of politics for good, but if he made a come back, he could win either of the two federal St. John's ridings. St. John's East is a good bet: Norm Doyle is out of the race, and the Liberal candidate and former MHA Walter Noel, was named in the recent constituency allowance scandal. The riding also includes some parts of the city that are more inclined to vote NDP: Pleasantville, Virginia Park, the university area. But it doesn't include the downtown portion of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.

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skarredmunkey
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posted 20 August 2008 06:36 PM      Profile for skarredmunkey     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, if the PCs were not going to sweep these two districts before, they are now.
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V. Jara
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posted 20 August 2008 09:42 PM      Profile for V. Jara     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'd guess Harris is out of politics permanently too. It's a shame, because both Random-Burin-St. George's and St. Johns East are going to be without incumbents this next election. If only the Federal NDP were so lucky as to see Desmond McGrath and Jack Harris take those seats back from the Liberatives.

With the right candidates, the NDP is possibly competitive in Labrador, Manicouagan, Abitibi – Baie-James – Nunavik – Eeyou, Nunavut, and the Yukon too. The NDP could basically win the whole North. Paul Martin had his dream team. Jack Layton could have his Northern Lights.


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Ken Burch
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posted 20 August 2008 11:35 PM      Profile for Ken Burch     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I like it. The NDP Borealis Caucus!
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posted 21 August 2008 05:44 AM      Profile for Stockholm     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Don't be too sure about Jack Harris being out of politics permanently....

Nunavut apparently has a great NDP candidate and its an open seat. It will be a tier one target.


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posted 21 August 2008 07:42 PM      Profile for pebbles     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Ken Burch:
Those seem, from the CBC descriptions, to be pretty solidly working-class ridings, even somewhat impoverished ones. Why, then, did the Tories take both of them by better than three-to-one in the 2007 election?

How cute! Someone who thinks there is any ideological basis to Nfld. electoral politics!


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Robo
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posted 27 August 2008 02:36 PM      Profile for Robo     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
OK, so I'm early. But you can check out the "Election Results Live" link here.

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V. Jara
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posted 27 August 2008 11:18 PM      Profile for V. Jara     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It's weird how the % popular vote numbers don't add up. Good showing for Kathleen Connors , although still not much there to spook the Conservatives.
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posted 02 September 2008 02:29 PM      Profile for Robo     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The column is labelled "Per Cent Voter Turnout". In each case, 43% of the eligble voters actually voted -- that's why the numbers don't add up to 100. It's unusual compared to the percentage of votes cast numbers that usually appears in most voting result reports, but it actually shows what it is labeled as being.
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posted 02 September 2008 04:07 PM      Profile for robbie_dee     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
So Kathleen Connors actually took about 23% of the vote then? That's not a bad showing at all. Also, the NDP seems to be solidifying itself as the second place party in the St. John's metro area. They finished ahead of the Liberals overall in that area in the last provincial election, too. That's a very positive sign.
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