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Doug
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posted 25 July 2008 02:23 PM      Profile for Doug   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This situation is probably the best argument for anti-scab legislation I've seen. Thought your job was to sell caskets? Today you're burying them.

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Office clerks and salespeople took over the graveyard shift at several cemeteries across the region yesterday to make sure no caskets were left unburied when gravediggers hit the picket lines.

Mount Pleasant Group of Cemeteries rolled out its backup plan after 230 unionized workers at nine properties from Brampton to Oshawa walked off the job Wednesday night.


http://www.thestar.com/News/GTA/article/467120


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Michelle
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posted 25 July 2008 02:43 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What the heck are the office workers doing scabbing? Are they not unionized?
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aka Mycroft
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posted 25 July 2008 02:51 PM      Profile for aka Mycroft     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think only the groundspeople are unionized.

Sorry, I have to read this part again:

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Office clerks and salespeople took over the graveyard shift at several cemeteries across the region yesterday to make sure no caskets were left unburied when gravediggers hit the picket lines.

Question. If you work in a cemetery isn't it *always* the graveyard shift?


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oldgoat
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posted 25 July 2008 02:53 PM      Profile for oldgoat     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This may meet with stiff resistance from the clientelle.
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'lance
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posted 25 July 2008 02:59 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The cemeteries will just have to pass on accepting new residents for the duration.
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Robespierre
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posted 25 July 2008 04:08 PM      Profile for Robespierre     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This isn't s dead issue, it would seem.


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posted 25 July 2008 04:19 PM      Profile for unionist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Management can't run the place for long with just a skeleton staff.
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remind
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posted 25 July 2008 05:30 PM      Profile for remind     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That's because most management is just dead weight.
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posted 25 July 2008 06:14 PM      Profile for M. Spector   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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If you are looking for a rewarding career with a fast-paced and growing company that is a market leader, you should definitely consider Mount Pleasant Group of Cemeteries. We offer competitive salaries, excellent benefits and a great place to work.

Mount Pleasant Group of Cemeteries is committed to helping families of all faiths, traditions and cultures create meaning around the death experience. We have been providing quality customer care to families in the Greater Toronto Area for 178 years, and today, with ten cemeteries, six crematoria and 12 mausolea, all serving the distinct needs of the communities in which they are located, our name sets a standard: a gold standard.

Our success is a result of our dedicated team of professional employees who are committed to providing new and innovative products and services within the death care industry. - Source


These fat cats who daily get multi-thousands of dollars from the Toronto elite for every wealthy, aging boomer who passes away won't even pay their groundskeepers and gravediggers a decent wage or stop exposing them to toxic pesticides.

They pay part-time wages (as low as $11 an hour) and no benefits instead of hiring full-time workers. And when their contract was about to run out on July 4, management began training non-unionized employees to scab for them.

This is a small, weak union in a low-wage sector of the economy, up against a wealthy, highly profitable business that is out to break them.

But don't let me be a party pooper. Carry on with the yuk-fest.


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Fidel
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posted 25 July 2008 07:06 PM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
They can stockpile product and outlast striking cemetery workers as long as scabs can remember who's buried where. Sounds like a bad plot to me. Customers must be mortified.
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aka Mycroft
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posted 25 July 2008 10:31 PM      Profile for aka Mycroft     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Situation is grave, cemetery union warns

The striking gravediggers may be digging themselves into a hole.

[ 25 July 2008: Message edited by: aka Mycroft ]


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'lance
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posted 26 July 2008 12:00 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by M. Spector:
But don't let me be a party pooper. Carry on with the yuk-fest.

I'm completely in favour of workers' rights and collective bargaining, and against scabbing, but merely saying so doesn't help anyone. I'm not being snarky at all when I say that if you have suggestions as to how an outsider could provide tangible support, I'm sincerely interested in them.

The only thing I can think of wouldn't really help either, namely continuing with my plan, or at least hope to boycott these businesses as long as possible.


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unionist
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posted 26 July 2008 12:31 PM      Profile for unionist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Is this union really "affiliated" with the CAW? What does that mean - anyone know?
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Robespierre
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posted 26 July 2008 12:38 PM      Profile for Robespierre     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'd like to bury any misunderstanding generated by my participation in the round of cemetary humor above by saying that I support collective bargining even with the Devil.
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aka Mycroft
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posted 26 July 2008 12:42 PM      Profile for aka Mycroft     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by unionist:
Is this union really "affiliated" with the CAW? What does that mean - anyone know?

The CAW has a number of sections that have their own name. Usually, this is because a smaller union has joined the CAW but retained its name - for instance the Fish, Food and Allied Workers Union in Newfoundland, the Retail Wholesale workers union etc.


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aka Mycroft
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posted 26 July 2008 12:44 PM      Profile for aka Mycroft     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I, of course, support the strike but I don't think people should be humourless when it comes to the occupation involved.

In any case, I pledge not to die for the duration of the strike and I urge others to join me in this commitment.


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'lance
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posted 26 July 2008 01:04 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
At first I read that as "I pledge not to dig for the duration of the strike...". Which works too.
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Polly Brandybuck
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posted 26 July 2008 06:23 PM      Profile for Polly Brandybuck     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by 'lance:
....or at least hope to boycott these businesses as long as possible.

Ha, ya I hope I get to do that too. However, should I die, I don't want any resource wasting space taker upper spot in a golf course green cemetary to commemorate the fact that I once breathed and then I didn't anymore.

Ashes make sense - but don't send them home with the relatives - just chuck them out or use them in pottery or compost or something. Mortal remains are just bits and pieces of skin and bone, and really just another reminder of how sad you were when (insert name of loved one) died. A morbid reminder that you get to be heartbroken and lonely, and when you get over the lonely, it's a reminder that you should feel damn guilty over getting over the lonely. An inner nagging that hits you whenever you drive on past the cemetary where you once vowed to make sure (insert the same damn name) never went without fresh flowers.

Oops, thread drift.


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'lance
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posted 26 July 2008 07:04 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Polly Brandybuck:
Ha, ya I hope I get to do that too. However, should I die...
(emphasis added)

Now, I'm not a doctor, philosopher or theologian, and no more than averagely morbid, but... sooner or later, I guarantee it.

On the other hand -- if you work out how to avoid it altogether, and still maintain moderately good health with it (it's a terrible tale, the story of the Sibyl), I hope you'll clue us in. Immortality might be dreadful after all, but one would like the option. Even Jesus wanted just a little more time, to quote the great Time Waits.

(thread drift, schmead drift)

[ 26 July 2008: Message edited by: 'lance ]


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Polly Brandybuck
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posted 27 July 2008 12:27 AM      Profile for Polly Brandybuck     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hmm, okay, when I die then, but I really shouldn't..not yet. I have parking tickets to pay.
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Michelle
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posted 27 July 2008 04:58 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Polly Brandybuck:
Hmm, okay, when I die then, but I really shouldn't..not yet. I have parking tickets to pay.

Dude, that's the best reason TO die! I'm hoping that, if I decide not to declare bankruptcy once my student loans are 10 years old (five years from now!) that I'll have them for the next half century and die owing those bastards money.

Actually, come to think of it, since I have no savings and only an insurance policy (which they can't touch since it's in the name of a beneficiary), if I'm ever diagnosed with a terminal illness, I'll see if I can't get a few credit cards to rack up before I croak, too. My last big fuck you to the corporate world.


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Doug
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posted 27 July 2008 08:29 AM      Profile for Doug   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Polly Brandybuck:

An inner nagging that hits you whenever you drive on past the cemetary where you once vowed to make sure (insert the same damn name) never went without fresh flowers.

I didn't vow that, but as some of my family are in one of the struck cemeteries, I'll note that the grass over them may not be being raked and watered. The horror!

I think we can all deal.


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