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Doug
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posted 31 October 2004 10:37 PM      Profile for Doug   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The left-wing candidate in Uruguay's presidential election, Tabare Vazquez, has claimed victory after exit polls put him firmly in the lead.
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al-Qa'bong
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posted 01 November 2004 12:42 AM      Profile for al-Qa'bong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Pretty soon someone in the Pentagon is going to talk about dominoes again...

Nevetheless, it's great to see South America going Left.


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BLAKE 3:16
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posted 01 November 2004 04:31 AM      Profile for BLAKE 3:16     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
alQB, I think you're right. They already tried Venezuela, Cuba's in the sight lines, Ecuador is a mess.

How much overlap/influence does Argentina have on Uruguay? Are there Uruguayan friendship/solidairty committees in Canada? If folks know, please post a link or email. Thanks.


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Rufus Polson
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posted 01 November 2004 04:14 PM      Profile for Rufus Polson     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Cool.
Bolivia next?

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DrConway
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posted 01 November 2004 10:31 PM      Profile for DrConway     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I thought Bolivia already had a Chavez-lite President.
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Burns
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posted 01 November 2004 11:30 PM      Profile for Burns   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Evo Morales ran for President of Bolivia a few years back on a platform that was so radical it would make Hugo blush. To the amazement of all he came second to Gonzalo Sanchez de Lozada. Lozada won easily but lost the Presidency after his neo-Liberal reforms led to a massive backlash. The new President Carlos Mesa has been more conciliatory and has worked with Morales and others on the Left.

However, the Bolivian Left is ornery and they're on the move again.

Meanwhille back in Uruguay, the Frente Amplio has recieved much support from abroad with Brazillian President Lula and Argentinian President Kirchner openly campaigning for Vazquez . Kirchener has been particularly aggressive in his support. This is important since the Uruguayan community living in Argentina is estimated in 300,000. Most of them - not surprisingly are working class. Kirchner gave them all the day off to go home and vote.

A big day for the Left, and epsecially for enemies of George W.


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Fidel
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posted 02 November 2004 03:36 AM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Remember Salvador, 9-11-73.

Remember Che.

The global revolution continues.


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Agent 204
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posted 02 November 2004 04:28 AM      Profile for Agent 204   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The great thing will be, the Americans will be coming home from Iraq with their tail between their legs and suddenly realizing that they've failed to stop a huge shift in Latin America, and suddenly realize that they "should have" been working harder to overthrow these governments before they became well established.

The question is, what will they do upon finding much of Latin America has slipped from their grasp? Will their usual tricks from the past work? If not, will they be foolhardy enough to try direct intervention?


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Fidel
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posted 02 November 2004 04:52 AM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Make that a "dirty" bag of tricks, Mike.

Salvador Allende was elected by the people. Chilean's couldn't be trusted with democracy, according to the madman and the doctor.

And so have Brazilian's spoken. And Uruguayan's, and Bolivian's .. and Venezuelan's and more to come, hopefully. Colonialism/capitalism cannot survive without enforcement by military junta.

Ironically, the U.S. has become a banana republic.


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Anchoress
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posted 02 November 2004 06:20 AM      Profile for Anchoress     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thank God the people of Latin America are taking back the collective fates of their countries from the greedy foreign (sorry lagatta ) banks and governments.
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lagatta
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posted 02 November 2004 07:09 AM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Anchoress, I know people in Uruguay who are celebrating now. It is the springtime down there... A century ago, Uruguay was one of the most developed places in the Americas, and a beacon of social and cultural progress. Like Argentina, it has been "underdeveloped"...

Another important facet of the election was the referendum victory against the privatisation of water, a huge issue in many countries now.

There is no comparison between a Third-World country protesting against abuses by "foreign" (imperialist) banks, corporations and international financial institutions and people here who talk about "furriners"or "foreign countries"...

[ 02 November 2004: Message edited by: lagatta ]


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Burns
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posted 02 November 2004 11:54 AM      Profile for Burns   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
With all respect to Che, "foco" only worked in Cuba. It failed in Bolivia when he tried it and the foco-inspired revolutionaries in Uruguay, Colombia and elsewhere haven't had much success (to put it mildly).

Of course it reamins to be seen whether "revolution" by the ballot box will work either. Kirchner has been more "revolutionary" than Lula thus far - and he was from an "old line" party. Ironically the US is forced to lie in the bed Reagan made in the 80s. Faced with growing criticism of US support for dictators and hoping to win a PR war against the Sandinistas, the US began to push for "democracy" albeit in a stilted unfair form that guaranteed the results they wanted. Thus Chile became "democratic" but with a key role for mass murdering despot Pinochet. Thus Nicaragua held elections that led to the defeat of Daniel Ortega. It was deemed safe to go "democratic" since most of the Left had been killed off (literally) and the deck was stacked anyway.

The problem for the US is that people believed the hype. The OAS - which used to be a convention for puppet regime hacks - is becoming a relatively ornery group that denounced the US for its coup attempt on Chavez. Groups that were supposed to be marginalized (or dead) are forming parties and winning elections. Former guerillas are winning office. When the Americans try and step in (as they did against Chavez or during the Bolivian election of 2002) they end up looking like idiots or hypocrites or both.


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robbie_dee
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posted 04 November 2004 03:32 PM      Profile for robbie_dee     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What are the prospects that Canada could build a closer alliance with South American leftists as a counterweight to the US in this hemisphere?

Quebec, at least, has an arguable claim for membership in "Latin" America. But all of Canada, including francophone Canada, has profited much more from our past dealings with USian capital than have those in South and Central America. On which side is our bread buttered?

[ 04 November 2004: Message edited by: robbie_dee ]


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Burns
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posted 04 November 2004 03:53 PM      Profile for Burns   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, Canada sent 85 per cent of it's international exports to the US last year - no other nation comes close. The FTA and NAFTA have exacerbated what was alraedy a serious problem - namely our total reliance on the US.

Of course, Canada can still find common cause with progressive leaders. The OAS is increasingly becoming a venue for dissent instead of ass-kissing. There's no reason why Canadians couldn't join join other progressive leaders and form a front on key issues like this.

However, Paul Martin will never be that leader.


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thorin_bane
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posted 04 November 2004 05:58 PM      Profile for thorin_bane     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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