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Boom Boom
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posted 09 September 2005 01:18 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Prime Minister Mr. Paul Martin and China leader Mr. Hu Jintao are continuing in their Press Conference as I type. Mr. Jintao in response to questions from the media said that Canada and China have just signed a trade agreement whose purpose is to expand Canada - China trade from $15 billion at present to $30 billion by the year 2010; that the Dalai Lama can not speak for the people of Tibet in any meaningful way until he reverses his advocation of a separate Tibet; that Taiwan by international consensus is undoubtedly a part of the One China as is Tibet and which history can confrim. Mr. Martin stated that Canada will make advancement human rights in China a necessary component of trade between Canada - China. Mr. Jintao said human rights are already written into China's governing Constitution (not sure I got this wording exactly right). I had expected Mr. Jintao to counter Mr. Martin by asking about the advancement of human rights for Canada's aboriginal peoples, but I haven't heard that raised yet. Mr. Jintao is being very sincere but firm.

edited to add: Mr. Jintao stated that Canada's trade with China amounts to 3.6% of our total; while China's trade with Canada amounts to only 1.5% of their total. Mr. Jintao gave the current population of China as 1.5 billion (I thought China's official current population was 1.2 billion).

I hope I got this all exactly right; please correct me if I have made any grievous error. The text from the closed captioning person - three languages to decipher (Chinese, English, French) are making the CC'er's job very difficult)

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Vigilante
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posted 09 September 2005 01:47 PM      Profile for Vigilante        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Jintao's actually gonna visit the kung fu joint I go to this satarday. The management of that club is pretty pro-china(needless to say when I go there I keep things to myself on certain issues).There's actually an email saying people should come on satarday morning to meet the leader.

I don't go saturdays anyway.


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Hugo the Liberator
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posted 09 September 2005 03:15 PM      Profile for Hugo the Liberator        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Another reason to destroy the mother fucking Liberals.

The only socialist party left in "China" is Tibet's National Democratic Party and Hong Kong's April 25th Action.


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solarpower
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posted 09 September 2005 03:21 PM      Profile for solarpower   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I guffawed when Mr. Jintao said that he hopes the Dalai Lama will come to the 'right' decision. Might as well have just said 'my' decision.
I understood it's only big big businesses that China will allowing in.
I see our resources flowing to China and the USA and Canadians getting by on whatever is left.
We are sending an embezzler back to China to be tried, convicted and executed. Is that part of the business deal we are making?

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Boom Boom
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posted 09 September 2005 04:23 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The words I would use to describe the Hu Jintao I saw at the televised press conference would be: rigid, doctrinaire, hardline, unbending, and one not to deviate from the party line. A scary guy.
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Hugo the Liberator
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posted 09 September 2005 04:41 PM      Profile for Hugo the Liberator        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Boom Boom:
The words I would use to describe the Hu Jintao I saw at the televised press conference would be: rigid, doctrinaire, hardline, unbending, and one not to deviate from the party line. A scary guy.

Not to mention he has a lot of good friends in both the Lieberals and the CONservatives.


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posted 09 September 2005 06:00 PM      Profile for spatrioter     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Tribunal wants surtax on Chinese bicycle imports
quote:
The federal cabinet is considering a proposal to slap a stiff surtax on foreign-made bicycles, a move which, if accepted by cabinet, could add as much as $150 to the cost of a $500 bicycle, opponents of the plan said.

The move is being recommended by the Canadian International Trade Tribunal, the federal government agency responsible for sorting out international trade disputes. The CITT made its recommendation to cabinet after complaints from Canadian bicycle manufacturers. The Canadian bike makers claim that a flood of cheap imports is hurting their businesses and endangering Canadian jobs.


As much as I think we should support the Canadian bicycle industry, I'm worried about the effect such a surtax would have on those who use bicycles as a low-cost form of transportation. Wouldn't it be wiser to invest in the Canadian bicycle industry, to lower the cost of our own bicycles? That would encourage low-cost environmentally-friendly transportation, while also supporting Canadian workers and industry.

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Aristotleded24
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posted 09 September 2005 08:26 PM      Profile for Aristotleded24   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
On a somewhat related vein, CTV has a poll where Paul Martin said that China's human rights record shouldn't stop trade relations, and asked if people agree. As of right now, it's the "yes" side over the "no" side 55-45.
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Hugo the Liberator
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posted 10 September 2005 03:42 AM      Profile for Hugo the Liberator        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Typical. Most Tories and Liberals hate human rights.
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rinne
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posted 10 September 2005 09:36 AM      Profile for rinne     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
There is no Tibetan Buddhism left in Tibet in any real way. Monks are not allowed to practice the teachings, they are there for the tourists. They are there to demonstrate China's tolerance!

Young Tibetans are outnumbered by the Chinese that have moved in to settle the area and there are rising rates of alcoholism and shame at being "Tibetan". Does that sound familiar?

As long as the Money Gods rule we will continue along this path.


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swallow
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posted 10 September 2005 10:42 PM      Profile for swallow     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Interesting to see that the Dalai Lama asked supporters not to protest against Hu on this trip. Perhaps he thinks the prospects for dialogue are better.

And i can't resist being the pedant and pointing out: It's Mr Martin and Mr Hu. Or, if you insist, Mr Paul and Mr Jintao. Chinese names confuse many, unfortunately.

George Bush, for one.


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Hugo the Liberator
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posted 11 September 2005 12:30 PM      Profile for Hugo the Liberator        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I agree they're confusing.

My rule is to use the first name as a surname unless the first name is not a Chinese one.

For instance:

Leung Kwok-hung is Leung while Emily Lau is Lau.

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