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Stockholm
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posted 09 November 2006 11:09 AM      Profile for Stockholm     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Feel free to comment of these stunning results. I think that Jews may have outdone even African-Americans in their overwhelming support for Democrats and their rejection of the GOP!

And welcome two more Jewish ultra-liberal senators - Bernie Sanders of Vermont and Ben Cardin of Maryland.


http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3325529,00.html

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87 percent of Jews vote Democrat
Democratic Party wins largest percentage of Jewish support since 1994. Elections expert: Jews voted for candidates good for Israel, but also focused on other issues

Yitzhak Benhorin
Published: 11.08.06, 13:04

WASHINGTON - American Jews expressed flagrant support for Democratic candidates for Congress, contributing to a turnaround in the House of Representatives. According to a CNN sampling of voters, 87 percent of Jewish voters voted Democrat.

This was the highest percentage of support for Democrats since the Republicans took over Congress in 1994.

Two years after a decisive election victory for Bush and his Republicans, Democrats sweep Republicans out of power in US House of Representatives, riding public doubts about war in Iraq, President Bush's leadership to victory.

The Republican Party tried to frighten Jewish voters during the election campaign, primarily with their ads in Jewish newspapers, but no one was buying.



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500_Apples
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posted 09 November 2006 11:12 AM      Profile for 500_Apples   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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I think that Jews may have outdone even African-Americans in their overwhelming support for Democrats and their rejection of the GOP!

As a Jew, I find that kind of patronizing.


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unionist
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posted 09 November 2006 11:21 AM      Profile for unionist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by 500_Apples:

As a Jew, I find that kind of patronizing.


What?

- The way Jews voted?

- The suggestion that it matters how Jews voted?

- The suggestion that Jews vote as a bloc?

- The comparison to African Americans?

- The suggestion that Jews may have "outdone" African Americans in some area?

I apologize if I have omitted other possible meanings of your statement.


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Michelle
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posted 09 November 2006 11:29 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Do you think that was really Stockholm's intent? If anything, I think this thread is kind of a continuation of previous discussions on babble, where right-wing folks have been claiming that huge numbers of Jews have suddenly converted to neocons and will be voting Conservative and Republican in droves.

Apparently, that didn't happen, at least not south of the border. I'm assuming that's the point that Stockholm was trying to make.


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Stockholm
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posted 09 November 2006 11:34 AM      Profile for Stockholm     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thank you Michelle, that was precisely my point!
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josh
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posted 09 November 2006 12:01 PM      Profile for josh     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:

And welcome two more Jewish ultra-liberal senators - Bernie Sanders of Vermont and Ben Cardin of Maryland.


Cardin is by no means as left as Sanders.


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posted 09 November 2006 12:03 PM      Profile for unionist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
And for what it's worth, I agree with Stockholm!
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posted 09 November 2006 12:50 PM      Profile for Stargazer     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Go Bernie Sanders!!!
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Stockholm
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posted 13 November 2006 03:53 PM      Profile for Stockholm     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Isn't it interesting that one thing that Jews and Muslims agree on is their total; rejection of Bush and the GOP!!

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Muslims voted 90 to 10 For Democrats! Delivered Virgina!
by choclate
Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 03:39:09 PM PST
* The number of first time voters in Virginia was in thousands, even Jim Webb's victory speach had Arab American posters which was great to see...not that I am an Arab *

CAIR-Ohio: Faithful Voted on Values
War, scandals and social justice all swayed religious voters, observers say Source: Columbus Dispatch
Click here to view full text ...

CAIR-OHIO: FAITHFUL VOTED ON VALUES

Adnan Mirza, executive director of the Ohio chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, said that exit polls conducted by CAIR showed 90 percent of Muslims voting Democratic in the races for governor, the U.S. House and Senate, and Franklin County commissioner.

"I think you can almost say it was a mandate on issues that had been implemented by the Bush administration," he said.

Wiretapping, extradition and civil liberties concerns, such as profiling, have cast Muslims in this country in a negative light and have had "a major impact on our community," Mirza said.

"To see the first Muslim being elected to the House, especially against the personal attacks he had to face in this election, speaks volumes."




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Steppenwolf Allende
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posted 13 November 2006 04:09 PM      Profile for Steppenwolf Allende     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I, for one, don't find it too surprising that so many Jews and Moslems voted for the Democrats over the Republicans.

Haven't done any checking myself, but I'm willing to bet a large number of Catholics supported the Dems over the Reich-Volk as well (I noticed a whole lot of Italian, Hispanic and Greek last names among the Democratic Party candidates).

I guess that's in part what the Reich-volk get for being such blatant anti-democratic corporate brown-nosers loaded with fanatical flat-earth religious evangelical types (who thankfully seemed to be the ones who took the biggest beating in last week's vote).

That's what they get for being such bigoted violent freedom-hating greedy capitalists who claim they walked the Earth with dinosaurs six thousand years ago.

People obviously realize the dinosaurs are extinct, so there's not much reason to have the Evangelicals still walking around either.


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BetterRed
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posted 15 November 2006 08:20 PM      Profile for BetterRed     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
, for one, don't find it too surprising that so many Jews and Moslems voted for the Democrats over the Republicans.
Haven't done any checking myself, but I'm willing to bet a large number of Catholics supported the Dems over the Reich-Volk as well (I noticed a whole lot of Italian, Hispanic and Greek last names among the Democratic Party candidates).


I've checked New York Times predictions before Nov.7.They did a neat district prediction:
Well, for 29 out of 34 Hispanic-majority Congress districts they put ":Safe Democrat".

Also exit polls showed Latinos voting overwhelmingly Democrat all over US.Good info...


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Stockholm
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posted 15 November 2006 08:31 PM      Profile for Stockholm     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The only Hispanic majority districts in the US that are NOT safe Democratic seats are few heavily Cuban districts in south Florida.
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Wolf
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posted 16 November 2006 09:26 AM      Profile for Wolf     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Lieberman won the Jewish vote in Connecticut though.

Serious question Stockholm: how do you think it breaks down in Canada? We only hear about the US because they do more polling than we do.

[ 16 November 2006: Message edited by: Wolf ]


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Cueball
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posted 16 November 2006 09:55 AM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Lieberman? You mean the new fascist in the Israeli cabinet?
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Lord Palmerston
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posted 22 November 2006 11:33 AM      Profile for Lord Palmerston     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The figure is from CNN with a sample size of just 200.
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brookmere
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posted 24 November 2006 05:08 AM      Profile for brookmere     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Stockholm:

And welcome two more Jewish ultra-liberal senators - Bernie Sanders of Vermont and Ben Cardin of Maryland.


"Liberal" means not being bound to any fixed political ideology, and I think that "ultra-Liberal" would mean having no principles at all.

Quite the opposite of Sanders, who describes himself as a socialist, not a liberal (although I think most on this board would describe him as a social democrat).


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Lord Palmerston
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posted 09 December 2006 07:20 PM      Profile for Lord Palmerston     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
For all these claims about anti-Semitism now being mainly on the left and not the right - who are the most prominent anti-Semites in the US? David Duke and Pat Buchanan, both clearly on the far right.
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Fidel
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posted 09 December 2006 07:48 PM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
They voted for Liberal plutocrats ? What's the diff ?.
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Lord Palmerston
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posted 09 December 2006 07:53 PM      Profile for Lord Palmerston     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I don't like the Dems either Fidel. My only point is that when neocons like "Wolf" insist that the real anti-Semitism is on the "left" (in which he includes anything to the left of the Republicans/Conservatives), I point to people on the far-right like Buchanan and Duke who are the most prominent anti-Semites in the US.

[ 09 December 2006: Message edited by: Lord Palmerston ]


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B.L. Zeebub LLD
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posted 09 December 2006 08:11 PM      Profile for B.L. Zeebub LLD     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by brookmere:
[QB]
"Liberal" means not being bound to any fixed political ideology, and I think that "ultra-Liberal" would mean having no principles at all.

What? Since when? "Liberalism" has a long and storied history.

While I don't vouch for everything in this article, there is some useful information here:


Wikipedia - Liberalism

Your definition sounds like something right out of the Republican party's Rove-ian playbook - i.e. paint "liberals" as godless folks with no principles...

Jeez...


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Fidel
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posted 10 December 2006 12:09 AM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Lord Palmerston:
I don't like the Dems either Fidel.

I remember listening to an American anarchist on the car radio just a few years ago. I didn't catch whether it was a taped speech or what I was listening to at the time. It was Abbie Hoffman. The things he talked about were all things I could identify with and relate to, or at least that's what I thought I was hearing. I pulled the car over because what he was saying just floored me. "Right on!", I said aloud minus some expletives for emphasis. Not sure what his political persuasion was. AH said that there are rich Jews, middle class Jews, and there are Jews on welfare, which made me chuckle at the time, because it confirmed for me that Jewish ppl are like everybody else. Abbie Hoffman, David, Stephen and Avi Lewis, Dave Barrett, Marx, Lenin etc, those are Jewish people I can identify with. Ralph Nader would be an excellent candidate, imo. Is Nader anti-Semitic, or is it that he's against the right-wing in Israel ?. He sounds like a socialist with some of what he says. Of course, there's always the socialist party to vote for.

[ 10 December 2006: Message edited by: Fidel ]


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posted 10 December 2006 02:47 AM      Profile for brookmere     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by B.L. Zeebub LLD:

Your definition sounds like something right out of the Republican party's Rove-ian playbook - i.e. paint "liberals" as godless folks with no principles...


Nonsense. The Republicans claim that "liberals" have plenty of principles - like feminism, secularism, egalitarianism, environmentalism, all of which are supposed to be "un-American".

And on this side of the border, it's the NDP that has always said that Liberals have no principles. Or haven't you noticed? Or maybe the Liberals aren't "liberal"? So who's liberal in Canada then?

[ 10 December 2006: Message edited by: brookmere ]


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posted 10 December 2006 03:14 AM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That's right. The U.S. needs an anti-war party. Liberal Democrats tend to rubber stamp carpet bombing campaigns and warfiteering in general.
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Stockholm
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posted 10 December 2006 09:39 AM      Profile for Stockholm     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
There are no "parties" in the US. There are two blobs called the Democrats and Republicans that are each an extraordinary loose coalition of people. Party labels oinly have any meaning when it comes to deciding which party is the majority in Congress and gets to cahair committees. Once that day passes, you basically have 535 Senators and Congressmen who are all "Garth Turner-style" independents (not on a right left continuum but in terms of being very independent minded).

There are already a number of Senators and Congressmen in Congress who are very anti-war and very leftwing. People like Dennis Kucinich sit as DEMOCRATS, but apart from determining which party is ther majority - he can vote any way he wants.


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