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TemporalHominid
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posted 17 February 2006 10:49 AM

would this be an indication of where privitisation of esential services could end up going?

Man injured battling the fire

quote:
Rueda said no one told him about the dues policy when he moved in 1 1/2 years ago.

Hispanic Residents not informed of policy

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Cougyr
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posted 17 February 2006 12:40 PM

Isn't the free market fun?

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posted 17 February 2006 01:11 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Cougyr:
Isn't the free market fun?

Ah, the haves, and the have mores.

There's some asshat from the Frazer Inst that they keep interviewing who's mantra is that everything should be privately owned, including air and water.

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robbie_dee
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posted 17 February 2006 01:22 PM

You know, I wouldn't mind having the option of not paying taxes to have the U.S. military "defend my freedom" in Iraq. Fire services I'll pay for, but I think I could take my chances with Saddam Hussein.

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Red T-shirt
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posted 18 February 2006 06:41 PM

This is how fire protection originated. Private fire brigades protected building bearing a plaque by the front door which identified them as one whose owner paid regular fees to that particular fire brigade. No plaque, no service! Some things are just plain done better as public entities.

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posted 18 February 2006 09:18 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Red T-shirt:
No plaque, no service! Some things are just plain done better as public entities.

Unfortunately it's been long enough now that some people have not even had the opportunity to forget that.

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Vincent Vega
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posted 19 February 2006 08:33 AM

Of course you understand that there are two sides to every story.Sure he says that he didn't know about the policy, but he's been living there for a year and a half.Maybe he chose to not pay and take his chances that he wouldn't have a fire.I agree that it is a sad story and a senseless policy, however....

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Michelle
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posted 19 February 2006 09:34 AM

How would he know if no one told him about it? It would never even occur to me to wonder whether I had to become a member of a fire department since I've never even heard of that before, having never lived in a community where you had to pay for fire-fighting in that manner.

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posted 19 February 2006 01:26 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Vincent Vega:
Maybe he chose to not pay and take his chances that he wouldn't have a fire.

The point is that should simply never, ever be a choice that needs to be made.

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radiorahim
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posted 19 February 2006 03:17 PM

Isn't "progress" wonderful?

Another week and we'll be returning to child labour...another month we'll be back to slavery...and give us a year and we'll be back to the stone age.

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BlawBlaw
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posted 20 February 2006 12:50 PM

The first thing to note is that they didn't save the guy's car and garage, but they would have saved him; they will fight a fire where a person is in danger. So, no, not everything is being bought and sold her, not human life anyhow.

Second thing, has anyone seen Gangs of New York?

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Mr. Magoo
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posted 20 February 2006 12:56 PM

I should think the locals could demand to have the cost of firefighting automatically added to their tazes. But I'm betting that at some point in time they had to fight to take the costs OFF their taxes.

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posted 20 February 2006 01:03 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Magoo:
But I'm betting that at some point in time they had to fight to take the costs OFF their taxes.

That's a long stretch even for you Magoo.

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Mr. Magoo
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posted 20 February 2006 01:05 PM

I'm only suggesting that at some point the local residents decided to go with an "opt in" plan for firefighting. What's the stretch??

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posted 20 February 2006 01:14 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Magoo:
I'm only suggesting that at some point the local residents decided to go with an "opt in" plan for firefighting. What's the stretch??

That you are betting that is the case rather than knowing that it is a fact.

So, is it?

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Mr. Magoo
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posted 20 February 2006 01:24 PM

A fact? No, I don't know that it is. But I thought I was clear about that.

I'll try to be more clear: It's my bet that locals — and I'm assuming they're rural — decided at one time to go with "opt in" firefighting service (after all, if your barn is a half hour drive from the fire station, you're probably better off having an emergency plan yourself than waiting a half hour and paying for them to rinse off the embers).

If the locals decided this was a good thing, I doubt they'd decide to go back to paying for firefighting through their taxes.

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brebis noire
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posted 20 February 2006 01:27 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Magoo:
If the locals decided this was a good thing, I doubt they'd decide to go back to paying for firefighting through their taxes.

The opt-out plan always seems good - until the fire at the neighbour's house sets yours on fire.

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posted 20 February 2006 02:33 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Magoo:
No, I don't know that it is.

Ah, so it's just so much idle speculation then.
Thanks for clarifying that.

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Mr. Magoo
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posted 20 February 2006 02:44 PM

It was clarified when I wrote it. You just needed extra help.

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