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Naci_Sey
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posted 21 April 2006 02:34 PM      Profile for Naci_Sey   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
From DAWN Ontario:

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REAL Women advocating to have Status of Women Canada disbanded

April 20, 2006

REAL Women is engaging in a letter campaign to the federal government to have the Status of Women Canada (SWC) disbanded. Hence letters supporting SWC to the government from feminist groups are needed...

Below is a copy of an article from the REAL Women website that provides some ideas for where they are going with the new government. We've highlighted one section that you should look at if you don't have time or the stomach to read the whole sorry thing.

Also below, appears a copy of a National Post column that is no doubt the start of the right wing press to support their agenda.

Let's not let them do to women in the whole country what they've done to us in Ontario!

REAL Women article

Highlighted section

National Post article

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oldgoat
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posted 21 April 2006 02:45 PM      Profile for oldgoat     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks Naci_Sey. I see in the arcticle that DAWN will soon be coming up with a sample letter we can send to Harper and the relevant Cabinet members. Please keep us up to date on this. I'm sure organisations like REAL women are working with the full encouragement and support of the CPC in making it appear like there's some sort of public consensus for their agenda. We're seeing it in the child care debate.

I really like DAWN BTW. Their site served as a main source for me a couple of years back for some advocacy work I was doing in dealing with Ontario Disability Support Programme. (which is still going on for those who remember)


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Reality. Bites.
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Reality. Bites.
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posted 21 April 2006 03:47 PM      Profile for Reality. Bites.        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
(Double post)

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barb_anello
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posted 21 April 2006 08:08 PM      Profile for barb_anello   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Find your local MP's contact info at this link:
http://www.parl.gc.ca/information/about/people/house/mpscur.asp?Language=E

Stephen Harper
* Email: [email protected]

* Address:
Office of the Prime Minister
80 Wellington Street
Ottawa K1A 0A2

* Fax: 613-941-6900

Bev Oda, Minister Responsible for the Status of Women Canada

* Email: [email protected]

* Address:
House of Commons
Ottawa, Ontario
K1A 0A6

* Fax: 613.992.2794

We should have a sample letter up on Monday.

Thanks for posting the revised blurb rather than the draft I accidently sent out (instead of saving until I was finished my edits) to listservs last night.


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posted 24 April 2006 01:49 AM      Profile for cana        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I believe the disbanded of SOW is a fair and equitable decision, giving that there is no Status of Men... REAL is only pressing for what is fair and equitable.

Throwing out the Court Challenges Program is no loss either, well, maybe for lEAF it is, but for the majority of Canadian its removal will be a saving grace. Perhaps this extremely bias program will be replaced with a program more fair and equitable for both genders and for the pro-family crusaders.


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posted 24 April 2006 07:52 AM      Profile for Stargazer     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Be gone cana, thou from the land of stepford wives! You are hearby abolished to post exclusivly in the "ain't man enough" forum. You'll have to find one though.
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Michelle
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posted 24 April 2006 08:00 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hey cana, you may not have noticed, but this forum says that people are to talk about feminism from a pro-feminist point of view.

Lots of web sites out there to trash feminism - this isn't one of them.


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cana
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posted 24 April 2006 10:34 AM      Profile for cana        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
No... I think I'll hang around and piss a few of you off!
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Stargazer
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posted 24 April 2006 10:38 AM      Profile for Stargazer     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hahahaha. Aren't you the funny little troll. You'll be banned long before you can ever piss us off.

Trolls are so amusing.


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Michelle
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posted 24 April 2006 11:20 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by cana:
No... I think I'll hang around and piss a few of you off!

No, I think you won't.


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the grey
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posted 24 April 2006 11:54 AM      Profile for the grey     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Michelle:

No, I think you won't.



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Scott Piatkowski
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posted 24 April 2006 12:07 PM      Profile for Scott Piatkowski   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by cana:
I believe the disbanded of SOW is a fair and equitable decision, giving that there is no Status of Men... REAL is only pressing for what is fair and equitable.

I don't like to kick a troll when they're already banned... well actually I do

When I was little, I used to ask, "There's a Mothers' Day and Fathers' Day, so why isn't there a Kids Day?" Of course, the answer was "Every day is Kids Day."

The reason that there isn't (and doesn't need to be) a Status of Men office is that every federal Ministry is a Status of Men office.


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Naci_Sey
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posted 24 April 2006 07:48 PM      Profile for Naci_Sey   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I can't say enough good about SWC and wish more ministries that provide funding to the non-profit sector would follow their example.

The Women's Program under SWC doesn't insist that all applicants be registered non-profits or charities. They are still open to supporting initiatives by ad hoc groups of women. That's crucial to encouraging truly grassroots action. Yet that policy is increasingly under threat, not to mention the existence of SWC itself.

My group, which works in the area of poverty, is an ad hoc group. Given the collective background of our members, we cannot operate in any other way but in a parallel, equitable structure. Without the funding we received for our first (and perhaps only) project, we would never have been.


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posted 24 April 2006 11:04 PM      Profile for izzalbob        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Scoot said; "I don't like to kick a troll when they're already banned... well actually I do

When I was little, I used to ask, "There's a Mothers' Day and Fathers' Day, so why isn't there a Kids Day?" Of course, the answer was "Every day is Kids Day."

The reason that there isn't (and doesn't need to be) a Status of Men office is that every federal Ministry is a Status of Men office."


Scott, I think you are still little, achieving your maximum intellect by resorting to junior high mentallity responses.

There is some truth to what Cana states, even if there a few are in disagreement. Status of Women Canada definately spreads misandry, the way this department operates is certainly not in the best interest of women or girls but is only in the best interest of a select group of 'special interests'. A few years ago, dissent to their popular and common opinion resulted in SOW creating a hit list by targeting certain individuals and organizations with hate crimes. Currently the department of SOW is being sued by these individuals... and I hope the dissenters succeed!

Further, because of SOW's ideology there will never be an end to domestic violence. Until SOW and her affiliates realize and come to terms with the fact that DV is a genderless issue there will be no end in sight, and that fits nicely with SOW's agenda... keeping the flow of money for all those women shelter of which they fund.

Scott, you really need to pull your head out of the sand and see the reality for what it truly is. There is a specific need for a Status of Men, a department to oversee funding and managemnent for mens shelters and to oversee the revamping educational arena to lift these dumbed down boys unto the same intellectual level as girls.

... a big round of applause for Cana... YEAH!


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Michelle
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posted 24 April 2006 11:08 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Where do they all come from? Honestly.
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Erik Redburn
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I was thought Rick Salutin had the best response to REAL WOMEN complaining about not getting the funding (public) that Real advocacy groups do: "Why don't they just ask their husbands for it"?
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siren
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quote:
Originally posted by izzalbob:

.....There is a specific need for a Status of Men, a department to oversee funding and managemnent for mens shelters and to oversee the revamping educational arena to lift these dumbed down boys unto the same intellectual level as girls.


I can support this argument.

Seriously though, I was at a First Nations/Friendship Centre meeting addressing domestic violence against women many years back. One of the men there said he thought it was stupid that women had to go to a shelter for safety. His point was that men should be taken to a shelter, have their lives disrupted and leave the home to the women and children.


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Scott Piatkowski
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posted 25 April 2006 12:08 AM      Profile for Scott Piatkowski   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by izzalbob:
Scott, you really need to pull your head out of the sand and see the reality for what it truly is. There is a specific need for a Status of Men, a department to oversee funding and managemnent for mens shelters and to oversee the revamping educational arena to lift these dumbed down boys unto the same intellectual level as girls.

Are you trying to demonstrate your theory that boys are being dumbed down. I will return your invitation to pull your head out of where it is currently lodged. I don't think that it's in the sand.


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posted 25 April 2006 12:15 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Now Scott. Fish in a barrel.
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Summer
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This is bad news. SOW has already become an afterthought (they lumped it in with Heritage), and I wouldn't be surprised if they are phasing it out. I don't know anything about Bev Oda, but Liza Frulla (former Minister of SOW) seemed to spend all her time on her Heritage portfolio.
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posted 26 April 2006 12:53 PM      Profile for barb_anello   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
There's a sample letter to Harper now available at http://dawn.thot.net/sow2.html

We're encouraging individuals and groups to write the PM, and send copies to the Minister of Status of Women and to the 3 opposition critics for Status of Women.

Complete contact information for the above also appears at http://dawn.thot.net/sow2.html


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