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N.Beltov
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posted 13 April 2008 11:24 AM
Michel Warschawski is very negative about the prospects, and this was BEFORE the 2006 invasion of Lebanon, to the point that he uses the expression, "The Left Gives Up" in one of his sub-headings. The New Israel quote: Only a small minority is continuing to fight, both for the rights of the Palestinian people and to stop Israel’s transformation into a fundamentalist state that has shed its last democratic pretenses. Will this remnant be able to block Israeli society’s rush to destruction, and stop the country from crashing into the wall of hatred around the world that Israelis are building with their own hands? The relationship of forces is not encouraging, and time is short.
Grim indeed. However, since W. wrote his piece there have been outside players that have ramped up the boycott campaign, including here in this country. In Canada an independent Jewish organization has struggled to its feet, under a hail of blows, and one hopes that the youngster will soon learn to walk. It may just be that Israeli peace forces need a little help from their friends ... which may just be forthcoming. Shalom.
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Coyote
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posted 16 April 2008 10:14 PM
quote: Originally posted by ohara: i am sure you meant to say how many criminals are in Israeli jails.
Sometimes, ohara, you make it too damn easy. quote: Administrative detention is detention without charge or trial, authorized by administrative order rather than by judicial decree. It is allowed under international law, but, because of the serious injury to due process rights inherent in this measure and the obvious danger of abuse, international law has placed rigid restrictions on its application. Administrative detention is intended to prevent the danger posed to state security by a particular individual. Israel, however, has never defined the criteria for what constitutes "state security." Israel's use of administrative detention blatantly violates these restrictions. Over the years, Israel has held Palestinians in prolonged detention without trying them and without informing them of the suspicions against them. While detainees may appeal the detention, neither they nor their attorneys are allowed to see the evidence. Israel has therefore made a charade out of the entire system of procedural safeguards in both domestic and international law regarding the right to liberty and due process.
quote: By the beginning of March 2003, Israel held more than one thousand Palestinians in administrative detention. In 2007, Israel held a monthly average of 830 administrative detainees, which was one hundred higher than in 2006.
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N.Beltov
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posted 17 April 2008 05:07 AM
If resistance to the Israeli atrocities and occupation ended tomorrow, then Israel would simply have a freer hand to ethnically cleanse territory of Palestinians more efficiently. The fact is that complicated problems require identifying the key or fundamental causes of those problems in order to have a realistic possibility of a solution: Occupation; the wall and other policies of Apartheid; Bantustans; open air imprisonment of entire populations; the prevention of a viable Palestinian state from ever taking hold. These are cornerstones of current Israeli policies and ensure that nothing will change, even if acts of individual terror continue. In fact, a good case can be made that the population of Siderot, for example, rather than being moved to safety, are being used by Israel as cannon fodder to justify the cornerstones and current policies in general. It's useful to have a few victims when you're cutting the power and water supply to entire populations, firing missiles from helicopter gunships at old men in wheelchairs, carrying out extra-judicial targeted assassinations, imprisoning Parliamentarians and children, and causing the deaths of pregnant mothers with a dizzying array of checkpoints and institutionalized humiliations. It's useful because something has to be done to stop the moral impoverishment of a population that looks the other way at such things. And bombing followed by whimpering in self-pity, as Michel Warschawski puts it, only leads to an inward looking and a blaming of others. An Open Tomb [ 17 April 2008: Message edited by: N.Beltov ]
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