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posted 05 June 2006 09:45 PM      Profile for rasmus   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Pirates protest shutdown of Pirate Bay

The calm of Stockholm's streets was interrupted at the weekend as protesters carrying the skull and crossbones campaigned against the closure of Pirate Bay, one of the world's most popular sites for downloading free movies on the internet.

In a seemingly related move, hackers deliberately overloaded the websites of the government and the police, forcing them to shut down temporarily.

The protests followed a raid by Swedish police last week on the offices of the file-sharing site, which is similar to the more famous Napster, the US music site closed down by US authorities for breaching copyright laws.

Pirate Bay, whose logo is a pirate ship firing cannon balls at the famous "Hollywood" sign, has about 1m registered users able to download 157,000 files including movies such as The Da Vinci Code and Mission Impossible 3.


The raids have also sent ripples across Sweden's political world after it was alleged in local media that the government conducted the raid only after being told to do so by the US authorities. The government denied these claims.

The furore appeared to have little impact on Pirate Bay, which was up and running again yesterday and whose political arm, the Pirate party, reported a surge in new members.

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posted 08 June 2006 01:39 PM      Profile for RandomRogue        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I suppose that I am a bit of a hypocrite, because I download music/TV shows etc.

However, I can't fault the companies or the US for wanting to shut that down.

There seems to be this general consensus that since we aren't hurting anyone (directly), that we should be allowed to do it.

But the fact of the matter is that, we are hurting the companies that produce these movies and artists that produce the music. We are lessening the demand for them, thus lowering the revenue that they can expect to make.

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posted 08 June 2006 03:00 PM      Profile for rasmus   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It's also breaking music and movie companies' cartel power to overprice delivery of content. Since peer-to-peer content sharing is at this point nigh well unstoppable, the smart things for industry to do would be to be good capitalists and find prices and delivery systems that people will buy, and make it cheap enough that people will rather pay than risk illegal activity. Better yet, introduce dynamic pricing--commodity music for which there is low demand should be cheaper (exclusive music will follow a different pricing structure, which is how it works now with the classical market).

So far the industry has proved very cumbersome and inflexible at responding to this threat. Instead of fixating on legal enforcement, if a company moves quickest to market cheap, downloadable content, they will clean up (a la iTunes).

For example, why aren't ALL tv shows downloadable? Bundle the show with ads, and offer it for download. Sure some people will still download illegally but for most people it is not worth the added inconvenience. If people want legit ad-free versions, they could pay extra for that.

Having said all that, bear in mind I don't really buy into "intellectual property" as a legal conception and in any case all the companies' whinging about suffering artists is only so many crocodile tears. The first people to screw the artists over are the companies.

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