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contrarianna
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posted 27 July 2007 08:02 AM      Profile for contrarianna     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Max Blumenthal has done an excellent video of the world's largest, mainstream, fundamentalist death cult.
He interviews Christians United for Israel at their annual Washington-Israel Summit (including such charmers as Tom Delay).

Forming an unholy alliance with the super-Zionists, this Christian death cult works for the Rapture. That is, essentially a massive suicide bombing with the target being nothing less than the planet earth.
See the video here:

Rapture Ready


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josh
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posted 27 July 2007 09:27 AM      Profile for josh     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Oy gevalt!

Seeing Holy Joe Lieberman praising his good buddy Man on Dog Rick Santorum really makes me want to wretch.

[ 27 July 2007: Message edited by: josh ]


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quelar
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posted 27 July 2007 09:35 AM      Profile for quelar     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Nothing really new with this. This sick and twisted group have been praying for the destruction of everyone but them for years.

In their defense though, they aren't planning the bombing or anything like that, they're leaving it up to god, so equating them to suicide bombers isn't really fair. Not saying they're not crazy, just saying that comparisosn isn't equivalent.

On the other hand, if you're an Israeli, why in hell would you let these people help you? Their whole point is to bring about the destruction of you.


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contrarianna
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posted 27 July 2007 10:20 AM      Profile for contrarianna     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by quelar:

In their defense though, they aren't planning the bombing or anything like that, they're leaving it up to god, so equating them to suicide bombers isn't really fair. Not saying they're not crazy, just saying that comparisosn isn't equivalent.


My statement was not unfair. The whole point of the alliance is to work politically to bring about the goals of the super-Zionists in order to facilitate a nuclear holocaust. The suicide bomber comparison is apt.

Obviously there is a good deal of mutual contempt just under the surface from both sides. It's a provisional political alliance with a shared desire for a "Greater Israel" but with a different expected outcome.
The Christians are trusting there will be one step more: destruction of the world with unconverted Jews going to Hell with the rest of the unbelievers.


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quelar
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posted 27 July 2007 10:23 AM      Profile for quelar     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by contrarianna:

My statement was not unfair. The whole point of the alliance is to work politically to bring about the goals of the super-Zionists in order to facilitate a nuclear holocaust. The suicide bomber comparison is apt.

But a suicide bomber does this on their own, pulling the chord, or pushing the button, etc.

These guys are setting up the 'conditions' for it to happen and are then going to sit back and wait for it to happen.

They're still crazy, and it's still wrong, I just don't like the analogy.


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posted 27 July 2007 10:24 AM      Profile for Frustrated Mess   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
My statement was not unfair. The whole point of the alliance is to work politically to bring about the goals of the super-Zionists in order to facilitate a nuclear holocaust. The suicide bomber comparison is apt.

I agree. And it is not like they are beyond violence. The fact they want the US to nuke Iran and while they have the political clout with the Bush/Cheney mad hatters club doesn't give them clean hands.


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contrarianna
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posted 27 July 2007 10:37 AM      Profile for contrarianna     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by quelar:

But a suicide bomber does this on their own, pulling the chord, or pushing the button, etc.

These guys are setting up the 'conditions' for it to happen and are then going to sit back and wait for it to happen.

They're still crazy, and it's still wrong, I just don't like the analogy.


I allow your technical distinction. So, likewise, bin Laden is not a suicide bomber but merely worked for, and funded, the trade center bombers, and then made it clear the outcome was "God's will".


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quelar
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posted 27 July 2007 11:18 AM      Profile for quelar     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by contrarianna:

I allow your technical distinction. So, likewise, bin Laden is not a suicide bomber but merely worked for, and funded, the trade center bombers, and then made it clear the outcome was "God's will".


Well, if you believe that Osama had anything to do with it.

But along that 'official story' then we agree.

They're all F'ing lunatics.


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contrarianna
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posted 29 July 2007 11:02 AM      Profile for contrarianna     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
A related story (which alludes to the video above) is this piece on Joe Lieberman and the way the mainstream press smears anti-war, anti-Bush politicians as "fringe" and "crazys-- as opposed to "serious" and "thoughtful" politicians such as Joe Lieberman. Lieberman can be seen addressing his psycho friends at the Christian-Israel conference in the video.

The article goes on about the sponsor of the conference Rev. Hagee:

"Lieberman's political comrade, Rev. Hagee, is at once both an extraordinary figure and a common one. He is an evangelical minister who, as an amazing interview he gave late last year to NPR's Terry Gross reflects, believes that "Rapture" -- whereby all Christians literally disappear from earth upon the return of Christ, leaving all non-believers to suffer on Earth -- is "imminent."

Rev. Hagee believes that before Christ returns, the Bible contains prophecies a series of Middle East wars against Muslims. And he also believes that God has placed an absolute bar on the giving away of any Israeli land whatsoever, and thus categorically condemns plans such as the "road map" and the Gaza withdrawal as blasphemies against God. In the Gross interview, the following exchange occurred, beginning with a clip from one of Hagee's sermons:

Hagee sermon: "For those of you in Washington, Jerusalem is not up for negotiation at any time, for any reason, in the future, no matter what your raod map calls for. There are still people in this nation who believes the Bible takes precedence over Washington, DC."

TG: Pastor Hagee, if you believe that the Bible takes precedence over Washington - I would assume you think the Bible takes precedence over the Israeli Government as well --

If you use the Bible as the basis for policy, is there any room for compromise? And if you use the bible as the basis for policy, should Muslims use the Koran as the basis for their policy, and then again, what possible basis is there for compromise at that point?

JH: There is really no room for compromise between radical Islam --

TG: I'm not talking about radical Islam. I'm just talking about Islam in general.

JH: Well Islam in general - those who live by the Koran have a scriptural mandate to kill Christians and Jews.

So we can never negotiate with "radical Islam," and by "radical Islam," we mean "all Muslims," because all Muslims, by definition, are radical, since they all are instructed to slaughter Jews and Christians, and thus can never be negotiated with...."

The sane, serious, Joe Lieberman


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