http://www.greenparty.ca/en/videos

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Originally posted by Daniel Grice:
These are starting to run nationally this week. I saw my first one last night. (We didn't have a budget to run 30 days worth of ads, so we held off until after the Leader's Debates when we felt the momentum would start shifting our way)

http://www.greenparty.ca/en/videos

They are intentionally "low budget" and filmed on the train because we wanted to contrast them with the slick US style ads that have become predominant in this election. We figured we would let everyone else attack each other for the first three weeks and the run ours as voters decided to make a real change.

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They are intentionally "low budget" and filmed on the train because we wanted to contrast them with the slick US style ads that have become predominant in this election. We figured we would let everyone else attack each other for the first three weeks and the run ours as voters decided to make a real change

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Hogwash. They are "low budget" because that what the Green Party could afford. Secondly, The camera angle is so bad that she looks squished near the bottom of the screen.... why on earth would the GPC use those angles? Honestly?
My best guess is someone with a camcorder captured "the best" of Mays musings and they used some of them.

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Huh, in the first ad with May she doesn't mention or promote the Greens at all, she just wants you to get out and vote

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Yes of course how terrible. A politician who took the time to create an ad that didn't self promote but talks about the need for Canadians to vote regardless of which party that is. There are plenty of other ads that promote Green philosophy so what on earth is your actual complaint?

I also don't agree that this is only what the Greens could afford because I know different. These are intentional and there is nothing wrong with the angle and showing the movement of the train. I think it actually gives a great feel for the kind of travel the Greens want to promote and the NDP for that matter. I remember traveling across from Ontario to BC and back again when I was young. I think the ad provokes a feeling of Canada much better than static green screen ads.

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Originally posted by remind:
How do you feel about EMay stating last night on the late news that Dion would be a great PM? She hobbled the Green Party candidates across Canada, and rendered their actions in trying to get elected, for naught.

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(This is not including local campaigns.)

Our train tour costs us about $100,000. (A few million cheaper than renting a plane and flying it across Canada.) The party probably spent about $150,000 on generic lawn signs sent to each riding. No idea what our central staff budget was or what we spent on flying Elizabeth and 4 staff across Canada, but whatever it was, this leaves a few million for the ad buys.

As a new media producer myself, it does not take much to do a high quality TV ad if you don't have to hire actors or license commercial music.

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Originally posted by Daniel Grice:
The Green Party had a $5 million dollar budget in this campaign.

(This is not including local campaigns.)

Our train tour costs us about $100,000. (A few million cheaper than renting a plane and flying it across Canada.) The party probably spent about $150,000 on generic lawn signs sent to each riding. No idea what our central staff budget was or what we spent on flying Elizabeth and 4 staff across Canada, but whatever it was, this leaves a few million for the ad buys.

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There are plenty of other ads that promote Green philosophy so what on earth is your actual complaint?

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The Genest ads kick ass!

Deputy Leader Claude Genest 1

Deputy Leader Claude Genest 2

I think the May ads do well in attempting to reach people who feel left out of the party political process.

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but the camera angle is really bad as it makes it look like May is just talking to herself like some crank you occasionally see on the train.

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I agree with Dan that the ads are great, and I've told EM and the campaign team that. Yes, production is TOO rough (angle, lighting, no edits) but it's still a fine set of ads.

This commenter summed is up pretty good.

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Green leader the one who doesn't understand green appeal

As a regular green voter who is otherwise fiscally conservative, May is eager to lose my vote and those of other conservative-minded voters who voted Green during the last few elections - people voting Green not because we're "left of centre" but because her party has (or had) a positive, anti-partisan, reformist message. Now, May's pitch is "do whatever it takes to stop Harper..." and sorry, but that makes me MORE likely to vote conservative - and leave the rest wondering why there even is a Green party in the first place if that's the goal. People like me are not the biggest constituency of hers by any means, but we're the constituency the Greens need to break through beyond the three or four granola seats they can't even win now. When Jim Harris was the Green leader, you at least felt like voting Green actually meant you were, well, voting Green. Now... well, if May wants "anyone but Harper," there are far better choices to be that anyone.

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May has no integrity

How can a leader of one party endorse the leader of another party, in the middle of an election campaign? Kudos to the Star for busting May on this. She has run a completely selfish campaign. Promoting herself in a riding she can't win, but telling all the other no hope GPC candidates to, um, vote Liberal. Oh, but she is not endorsing the Liberal Party. I also find it supremely ironic that her platform does not once mention PR, but the NDP--the party she continually criticizes--does. The longterm damage she has done, and will do, to the GPC fortunes will be felt long after she quits post October 14th.

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Electoral Reform NOT Strategic Voting, but Liberals don't support electoral reform

Elizabeth May loses credibility when she supports Dion and the Liberals. We find ourselves in this situation because the Liberals made the wrong choice of leader to go up against Harper. Then they spent time bickering and fighting over old wounds. Then the Liberals as an absent opposition allowed Harper to dictate the timing of the election. And perhaps even more importantly, our electoral system is outdated and deeply flawed. Less people will end up voting for the Bloc than for Greens, yet the Bloc will get close to 50 seats and the Greens will get 0 seats. Why is May supporting a party that is not running on electoral reform. The only progressive parties are the NDP and the Greens.

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Another "Not a Leader" in Canadian Politics

Ms. May is more than willing to sacrifice the Green Party to promote her small-minded and spiteful "Stop Harper" agenda of the Think Twice, trough-feeding coalition. Just how does throwing your $1.75/vote lifeblood funding to the Liberals or NDP help grow your party, attract more members, and pay the bills for the Green party to be a major force in the future? It doesn't. So Ms. May will move on after this election and rejoin her Liberal party. Poor Liberals! Meanwhile the Green Party will be shattered, financially strapped (if not broke), and ethically disgraced. Just what we would expect from Ms. May. Once a lobbyist and activist, always one. Certainly not deserving of being a party leader, however "bright" she is. Free yourself, Greens. Dump May after the election, and get back your party from this shrill package of self-centred spitefulness.

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I don't think the red/green pact has this in mind. Best laid plans appear to have unintended consequences

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NDP Strategic Voting

The liberals want your vote to save themselves from third place. Don't be fooled, Jack has a good chance of becoming official opposition. Why give your vote to the liberals to save their skin? They do not deserve second place after sitting on their hands the last two years.

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Originally posted by janfromthebruce:

Anyway, in looking at the comment section, May's ploy has BACKFIRED -

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You can pull all kinds of crap out of a comment section, usually from disgruntled NDP supports who think the Greens are capturing 'their' vote.

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Originally posted by remind:
What comment section are these quotes coming from?

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Let's see: May still explaining 'strategic voting'

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Originally posted by remind:

So Emay used a train for a portion of her campaign and then flew back across Canada, she did not train it both ways??

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Give it a f*cking break. Seriously. I'm sick of people who say environmentalists must hold to ultra-green actions in daily life, otherwise they are hypocrites. You are beating a straw woman. A big point of the environmentalist message is EVERYONE must do their proportionate part, and in addition, larger systemic changes must take place. Environmentalism is not about having an eco-footprint so light that you would have to be an angel made of shining light.

Training it one way is already doing a lot, credit goes to EMay - she did reduce some emissions. Taking the train was not just a publicity stunt, do you think she's trying to hide the fact that she's flying?

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I agree with the comments about the May and Carr ads. Okay, yeah they're low budget, they have to be, but its very well worth it to get some secondary lighting in there, and free to look at the camera.

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Originally posted by gram swaraj:

Give it a f*cking break. Seriously. I'm sick of people who say environmentalists must hold to ultra-green actions in daily life, otherwise they are hypocrites. You are beating a straw woman. A big point of the environmentalist message is EVERYONE must do their proportionate part, and in addition, larger systemic changes must take place. Environmentalism is not about having an eco-footprint so light that you would have to be an angel made of shining light.

Training it one way is already doing a lot, credit goes to EMay - she did reduce some emissions. Taking the train was not just a publicity stunt, do you think she's trying to hide the fact that she's flying?

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This is just simple character assassination by the NDP. Dion, May, Rae, Martin, Chetien, Trudeau. We have seen it for 50 years.

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Originally posted by janfromthebruce:
Perhaps the Red-Green pact is not working out as intended.

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They bombarded party headquarters with emails. May has been explaining herself ever since, but she's pointedly stopped short of calling on Canadians to vote Green. Writing on his Internet blog Wednesday, Ogilvie accused May of failing to support Green candidates and called for a new leader.

May said yesterday that Ogilvie has been a long-time detractor and was not surprised he called for her head.

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An easy way for Elizabeth to end this endless "Strategic Voting" story is to
1) stop musing aloud about the need for an "Anybody But Harper" vote. That's treason.
2) stop musing aloud about a "coalition" among the anti-Harper parties. That train has left the station. You couldn't arrange it over the past two years, so it ain't happening in the next nine days.
3) start campaigning hard for our 40 strongest candidates, nationally,

An early end to the GPC 08 campaignYes, it's incredible but true.

The GPC Leader will spend the last ten days of campaign in her own riding.

Some pundits have speculated that this is because the GPC lacks the budget for a longer leader's tour. This is completely incorrect. The GPC has publicly announced a $4 million campaign budget, a record amount.

On the other hand, Jack Layton was interviewed on the CBC news last night stating that he will spend the next ten days campaigning "from the northern tip of the country to the southern tip, from the West coast to the East coast."

Folks, that's what the leader of a political party

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I'm beginning to dislike Green bloggers.

May's style bucks all conventional wisdom, but it works. Remember the London byelection? She not only wouldn't attack Glen Pearson, she became BFFs with Glen Pearson. She won 26% of the vote.

She's extended this strategy nationally, and its still working. The Greens are averaging 10% in national polling, they have positive momentum going into the last 9 days of the campaign, and have a reasonable chance of winning a seat in Ontario or BC. She's made national headlines on a number of occaisions. She got the Liberals to adopt the carbon tax. She got into the debates (PS. do you think she would have been able to do so, if Dion didn't support her?), and kicked ass.

I don't question Jim Furyk's golf swing, and I won't question Elizabeth May's tactics. Her cross-country rail tour didn't really attract all that much attention... in fact, it was largely ignored. Run with the ad buys, put out media releases, win your riding.

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May's style bucks all conventional wisdom, but it works.

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She's extended this strategy nationally, and its still working.

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The Greens are averaging 10% in national polling,

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She's made national headlines on a number of occaisions.

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and kicked ass.

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And even though I believe she was an asset to the debate, I still do not believe she should have been allowed, over and above all the other fringe parties

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[ 05 October 2008: Message edited by: remind ]

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Originally posted by Daniel Grice:
Reminds right, the Greens are now polling at 13% nationally according to Harris-Decima's 4 day rolling average. Get your numbers right WCG.

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New Nanos:
Con 34%
Lib 30%
NDP 19%
BQ 10%
Gr 7%

And the GP dropped to 3% in Atlantic Canada

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Reminds also right, Elizabeth May was not declared the winner of the debate, she was declared the "winner of the night" according to the Globe. She walked away with 65% of people having a better impression of her. (Although CBC's the Current's panel of ex-premiers declared her the winner as did the CEO of IPSOS REID, but we will just ignore them.)

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'kay, that will be no problem to ignore them, as the CBC would say anything rather than give the NDP their due, moreover, when one held May in about negative 50% territory, a 65% increase does not mean much.

http://www.cbc.ca/thecurrent/podcast.html
Has the Premier's discussion.

Nanos Oct 3rd 8%
Oct 4th 3%

http://www.nanosresearch.com/election/CPAC-Nanos-October-5-2008E.pdf

Sorry, but it shows the GP dropping across Canada after the debates. Guess Canadians disagreed with Bricker.