The actual web site can not be seen here

After not seeing it there, I wondered what I was not seeing.

So I thought this might be a good time to have a little thought expreiment, and ask ourselves "what exactly is it that our government doesn't want us to know about Hexboallah"?

Myself, I think the Hexboallah English language website is a pretty typical Muslim "charity" site, with a lot of vaguely tasteless and garish green motifs, and appeals for money and support for the people of Lebanon. It will be both high tech, with flash banners and frames, but low on the aesthetic quality, coming out as vaguley tasteless and jarring and garish.

There will be slashes of Orange in some of the green. (puke.)

I think also there will be a few articles based on sermons by the parties leaders and their associated Shi intellectuals.

I think on the whole, the Hexboallah English language web site is a fairly soft-peddle affair, and certainly does not have a list of suitable civlian targets to be blown up by jihad enthusiasts, nor any special easy-to-make at home formulas for means of effecting the demolition of said civilian targets.

Focus will be very much on humanitarian relief and other feel-good themes, ala UNICEF, but targetting Muslim people.

So in essence I think our government does not want us to see people, other than approved people, from attempting to manipulate public opinion by emphasizing their charitable activties in liu of talking about the more unsavory aspects of their operation.

What do other people think?

[ 28 August 2006: Message edited by: Cueball ]

After reading your description, someone with HTML or XML or whatever skills could almost follow it as a roadmap and do an imitation Hizbollah site.

What do you think? Any takers?

Archive.org past snapshots of Hizbollah website

and one sample:

First archived page, from 1998

CAUTION: My machine hung up for whatever reason when accessing this stuff using Firefox. I'm trying IE now. But at least on the 1998 page, you can start to make out the outlines of the design (not as aesthetically sophisticated as what Cueball imagined!).

[ 28 August 2006: Message edited by: M. Spector ]

You people don't want to be shocked or hurt do you?

See how it redirects to http://www.hizbollah.tv/english/frames/index_eg.htm

Now check the source code for that page.

It tries to redirect to http://www.ilakat.org but fails because that website is down.

See the line "http://futuresite.register.com/us?hizbollah.tv"

That's the banner ad at the bottom.

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Originally posted by ouroboros:
Check out the source code for http://www.hizbollah.org/english/frames/index_eg.htm

See how it redirects to http://www.hizbollah.tv/english/frames/index_eg.htm

Now check the source code for that page.

It tries to redirect to http://www.ilakat.org but fails because that website is down.

See the line "http://futuresite.register.com/us?hizbollah.tv"

That's the banner ad at the bottom.

This link says that the Hezbollah site is http://www.alghaliboun.net/english/

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And it is down because it was hosted on a US server in Texas, contrary to your rather odd suggestion that they would not host in the US:

Hezbollah Web site booted in Austin [Texas]

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The fight between Israel and Hezbollah in Lebanon, so visible with bombs and rockets, has moved in less obvious ways into cyberspace, where it has cast a shadow over an unlikely locale this week: Austin. One of the war's hottest targets popped up in the state's capital and then disappeared under cyber-fire Monday. It was the Web site of Hezbollah's much-hunted propaganda arm, the satellite television operation known as Al-Manar, which is outlawed in the U.S.

With Israeli planes striking at its transmission facilities in Lebanon, Al-Manar set up its Web site on the servers of Austin-based Broadwing Communications as an alternative for Hezbollah to stream a message that warplanes have been trying to stop since Israel started its counteroffensive.

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So no. This excercise has not merely been about paranoid leftists whom are incapable of doing basic internet functions such as competent googles searches for major organizations.

I mean, if this is not the site, where is it? And really if little old Judy Rebick can have a substantive web presence, it was ridiculous to think an organization which buy thousands of Ktyusha rockets was incapable of putting up an easily accesible web presence, under its own name.

[ 28 August 2006: Message edited by: Cueball ]

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Originally posted by N.Beltov:
Hexbollah?

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Interesting, but even that calls itself a "resistance in Lebanon Special Web site," so one has to wonder where the main site has gone. Moved to India, as the article I posted suggests, but they even managed to get thar off-line as well, according to the article.

Al-Manar television is supposed to be here apparently:

quote: The fight between Israel and Hezbollah in Lebanon, so visible with bombs and rockets, has moved in less obvious ways into cyberspace, where it has cast a shadow over an unlikely locale this week: Austin. One of the war's hottest targets popped up in the state's capital and then disappeared under cyber-fire Monday. It was the Web site of Hezbollah's much-hunted propaganda arm, the satellite television operation known as Al-Manar, which is outlawed in the U.S.

What's your proof that www.hizbollah.org was the site that the article was talking about? No where did it give the URL. Maybe Al-Manar url is www.almanar.com.lb. At least that's what google says it is.

So no. This excercise has not merely been about paranoid leftists whom are incapable of doing basic internet functions such as competent googles searches for major organizations.

I mean, if this is not the site, where is it? And really if little old Judy Rebick can have a substantive web presence, it was ridiculous to think an organization which buy thousands of Ktyusha rockets was incapable of putting up an easily accesible web presence, under its own name.

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Man arrested for broadcasting Hezbollah TV
New Yorker charged with offering customers terrorist-operated station
Updated: 1:10 p.m. MT Aug 24, 2006

NEW YORK - U.S. authorities have arrested a New York man for locally broadcasting Hezbollah television al-Manar, which the U.S. Treasury Department has designated a terrorist entity.

Javed Iqbal, 42, was arrested Wednesday because his Brooklyn-based company HDTV Ltd. was providing New York-area customers with the Hezbollah-operated channel, federal prosecutors said in a statement Thursday.

The U.S. Treasury Department froze U.S. assets of al-Manar in March, saying it supported fund-raising and recruitment activities of Hezbollah, a Shiite Muslim group backed by Syria and Iran that has been at war with Israel in southern Lebanon.

Reuters via MSNBC -- as an e.g. from the MSM

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I just questioned if hizbollah.org is it. I could be wrong. But why would hizbollah.org have banner ads? I bet they have enough funds to pay for ad-less webhosting.

[ 28 August 2006: Message edited by: ouroboros ]

Here's a page with most the Hizballah websites.

http://www.haganah.org.il/harchives/005690.html

Hizballah.org is on that list but listed as inactive.

[ 28 August 2006: Message edited by: ouroboros ]