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rural - Francesca
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posted 16 September 2008 08:57 AM      Profile for rural - Francesca   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I just got a call that the McGuinty just shut down the poverty consultation process because there wasn't enough $ coming in (from where?????).

MSM hasn't picked up on it yet, this was heard on the CBC and Jackie Maund of Campaign 2000 was being interviewed.

Anyone else have any information?


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rural - Francesca
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posted 16 September 2008 09:09 AM      Profile for rural - Francesca   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
CTV

Just found this


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Fidel
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posted 16 September 2008 12:32 PM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Canada doesn't have the population and tax base to warrant two levels of government. Before the Homeland Stupidity nonsense in the U.S. and perhaps even still, Canada had more government per capital than the U.S. Canada has become a long running rightwing Libertarian experiment in country divided against itself with decentralized power in the territories and provinces. We're a frozen Puerto Rico exporting raw materials and energy to prop up that failing system south of us. But Canada isn't a country in the real sense of the word.

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Doug
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posted 16 September 2008 03:29 PM      Profile for Doug   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The poverty consultations did their job, that is, helping Dalton McGuinty get re-elected. That done, there's apparently no need for it anymore.
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Fidel
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posted 16 September 2008 03:35 PM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Doug:
The poverty consultations did their job, that is, helping Dalton McGuinty get re-elected. That done, there's apparently no need for it anymore.

Good things grow in Ontario. So does child poverty and homelessness.


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Fidel
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posted 25 September 2008 07:34 PM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ontario poor still waiting for strategy

McGuinty accused of 'abandoning' people in need by hinting weak economy could slow poverty plan

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Premier Dalton McGuinty says he's absolutely committed to creating a plan to help the 1.3 million Ontarians who live in poverty – he's just not saying when his government will act on it.

"The issue is not whether we go ahead with the strategy, it's how quickly we can move on this particular strategy given our financial challenges," McGuinty said yesterday, referring to his pre-election promise to release, by the end of the year, a comprehensive plan to reduce poverty in Ontario.

Josephine Grey isn't impressed by the distinction.

"Talking about putting a plan in place without implementing it is basically talking about a lot of hot air," said Grey, a Toronto grandmother struggling to escape poverty and co-chair of the Ontario Coalition for Social Justice.

"Obviously, when we're looking at an economic downturn, we're losing jobs across the province, people are struggling in rural areas, child poverty has got to the point where it's 1 in 4 in Toronto, it's reaching crisis portions.

"And here he is talking about pulling back and abandoning the people who are most in need at a time when help is most needed," said Grey, who was at Queen's Park where the NDP released its report on poverty meetings held across the province this past summer.

More than 400 people attended the NDP's eight public meetings on poverty and income security, and access to affordable housing topped their list of concerns, Beaches-East York MPP Michael Prue said. . .



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Scott Piatkowski
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posted 25 September 2008 09:58 PM      Profile for Scott Piatkowski   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Liberals to Ontario voters: Gotcha!
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Tommy_Paine
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posted 27 September 2008 06:55 AM      Profile for Tommy_Paine     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
But....but....but we voted strategically last time, perfectly! We kept the horrible tories out, and put in the Liberals who care so much for the poor!

Nice logic, too. We can't afford to come up with a strategy to fight poverty, just when the ranks of the poor are about to be swollen by the downturn in the economy.

Did they cut the free give away program to impoverished Cricket Clubs, too?


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Uncle John
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posted 28 September 2008 10:51 AM      Profile for Uncle John     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I guess the government is too poor to do anything about poverty.
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Michelle
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posted 29 September 2008 05:01 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Recession and Ontario's "poverty reduction"

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Last week, Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty began messaging that implementation of his controversial “poverty reduction” strategy “will likely” be slowed down and scaled back.

His excuse? “The state of the economy.”


Seems to me that a recession is the worst time to shelve a poverty reduction strategy.


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RevolutionPlease
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posted 29 September 2008 07:56 PM      Profile for RevolutionPlease     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Like they give a shit in the first place.

Why do poor people think Conservatives or Liberals are good?

edited: ambiguous sentence

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Fidel
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posted 29 September 2008 11:02 PM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Michelle:

Seems to me that a recession is the worst time to shelve a poverty reduction strategy.


That's exactly right, Michelle. For instance, our central bankers are said to have to forecast rising inflation three months, six months, or even a year or two down the road. God help us they say if the inflation boogyman ever gets hold of the economy. They trot out all kinds of scarey stories about hyperinflation in post-WW I Weimar Germany, and other historical economic events which have very little to do with the situation in modern Canada or any other post-laissez-faire economy. As Linda McQuaig said, the big sledge hammer of interest rate hikes is brought down at the first hint of inflation, except for times like now when the deregulated banking mess throws a wrench into the capitalist skunkworks.

But investing countercyclical dollars like the ONDP did from 1991-94 - into the system for social causes at the first hint of a recession - and now looks to be a real good time in Canada after an estimated 300k-400,000 manufacturing and forestry job losses since 2002 - is a non-starter in Ottawa or Toronto. McGuinty has resorted to some Keynesian measures with creating public sector jobs - and kudos to Ontario's Liberals for doing so. Credit where credit is due. But they've also ignored some very good advice from the NDP side as well as captains of industry in this province for too long. Horses are out of the barn, so to speak. It sounds like McGuinty and Dion(and Harper) are out of tune.

Why McGuinty's 'fairness campaign' has failed

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posted 30 September 2008 07:07 AM      Profile for Mojoroad1     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Prue demands immediate action on poverty reduction
Queen's Park
September 22, 2008 - 10:00pm

NDP Poverty Critic Michael Prue today demanded the McGuinty Liberals take immediate action to reduce poverty, including implementing a host of cost-effective measures that would make a significant difference in the lives of Ontario’s poorest.

”An economic crisis is no excuse for poverty to slip off Dalton McGuinty’s agenda. Now is precisely the time when we need to see action from his government. There are things that can be done immediately that won’t cost the province a cent,” said Prue.

During today’s opening of the Legislative Assembly’s Fall Session, Prue grilled McGuinty for stalling on his poverty reduction promise.

Prue said Ontario’s economic “tough times” should not be used as an excuse to delay these effective poverty-fighting measures:

• Immediately increasing the minimum wage to $10.25 an hour.
• Improving the Employment Standards Act to protect temp agency and part-time workers so that employers can’t underpay and exploit employees.
• Restoring card certification across all job sectors so that unionization is not so difficult and bad jobs can be turned into good jobs with decent pay and benefits.
• Capping payday loan rates at 35 per cent so that people don’t see their scant dollars siphoned off at extortionate rates.
Prue noted that all of these measures have been repeatedly recommended by poverty activists at consultations held across Ontario.
“These measures would make a difference and they wouldn’t break the bank. Dalton McGuinty has no excuse for not acting on them,” he said.


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